Bible Questions?

What bible are you quoting from, my passage was from the king james version, also why was an animal sacrifice needed at all, and when did the practice fall into dissuse and why?

 

Well they do believe that they are the only true believers and so believe that the Priests and Kings will be chosen from their ranks but it would only make sense that the Priests and Kings would be chosen from the ranks of true believers and not unbelievers.

You can decide for yourself who the true believers are.

But if everyone, except for those going to "Hell", are going to Heaven, as some believe, what is to become of the Earth?

The Bible says that the Earth was made to be inhabited and that the meek shall inherit the Earth, when is that going to happen?

Does that mean that only animals shall inhabit the Earth and that they are the meek that shall inherit it?

Or are you among those that believe we're all going to Heaven and then one day we shall all return to the Earth?

Bible mentions no returning to Earth for those in Heaven.

If that is the case why go to heaven in the first place and why return to Earth, if Heaven is such a Great place?

 

hey guys this is off topic but what are "hexes" ?

this is magic related term.....

 

Many things in the Bible are shadows of thing to come, and many times pictured what Jesus was to do, in the case of the sacrificed sheep they foreshadowed the sacrifice that Jesus would make and so afterward there would be no need for animal sacrifices.

I tend to use the NWT because I like it and have ready acess to it but here are some other translations you can look at. You will see that the majority say Doves and that only a few say Turtles and they are usually influenced by the King James Version.

New International Version (©1984)
If she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
If she cannot afford a lamb, she must use two mourning doves or two pigeons. One will be the burnt offering and the other the offering for sin. So the priest will make peace with the LORD for her, and she will be clean."

King James Bible
And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

American King James Version
And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

American Standard Version
And if her means suffice not for a lamb, then she shall take two turtle-doves, or two young pigeons; the one for a burnt-offering, and the other for a sin-offering: and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

Bible in Basic English
And if she has not money enough for a lamb, then let her take two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burned offering and the other for a sin-offering, and the priest will take away her sin and she will be clean,

Douay-Rheims Bible
And if her hand find not sufficiency, and she is not able to offer a lamb, she shall take two turtles, or two young pigeons, one for a holocaust, and another for sin: and the priest shall pray for her, and so she shall be cleansed.

Darby Bible Translation
And if her hand cannot find what is sufficient for a sheep, she shall bring two turtle-doves or two young pigeons; one for a burnt-offering, and the other for a sin-offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her; and she shall be clean.

English Revised Version
And if her means suffice not for a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves, or two young pigeons; the one for a burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

Webster's Bible Translation
And if she shall not be able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt-offering, and the other for a sin-offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

World English Bible
If she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves, or two young pigeons; the one for a burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she shall be clean.'"

Young's Literal Translation
'And if her hand find not the sufficiency of a sheep, then she hath taken two turtle-doves, or two young pigeons, one for a burnt-offering, and one for a sin-offering, and the priest hath made atonement for her, and she hath been cleansed.'

 

I noticed some of the bibles you sited were trademarked, it would seem that the publishers may be more interested in profits than prophets...

 

The words hex or hexes is not found in the Bible, so maybe someone else can answer your question.

 

You may be very well be right.

 

I guess it depends on why they copyrighted it.

 

I really recommend staying away from the KJV for various reasons. One reason is that many verses were added to it and another reason is because old English isn't necessary to use anymore. Many feel that it has intellectual value and importance but it really doesn't. We have the dead sea scrolls so we use that for our translations, showing that not much has really changed. The Darby translation is what I would recommend using because it seems to be the most clear cut translations of the DSS. Translations like the NIV are very clear as well.

Read the beginning side mark of these Bibles to see what that translated and why and how. It'll give you a clearer view on this.

Do you feel that there is something wrong from earning a living from the job that you do?

 

isnt NIV the JW bible???..........


and we all know how JW is really a cult....

 

It was compiled by the Christian Reform Church and the National Association of Evangelicals, so I would assume not.

 

Did you say people like me? What am I like waterbrother, are you then my judge? You accuse me of attempting to denigrate the bible. You are wrong. I speak only for the truth. I speak to uphold the the truth both in and about the bible. I challenge those who are teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.

Check out this thread;
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=360926&f=88
if after reading it you have a contradiction that wasn't covered just post it. [/QUOTE]

Here is an example of contradictions playing to contradictions.

previously by brother
"The Alpha and Omega are used as a title three times in the book of Revelation. An additional occurrence is found in the King James rendering of Revelation 1:11, however but is not well supported and is, therefore, omitted in many modern translations."

In one statement Alpha and Omega are used as a title three times, then it turns out that it is not in fact three but four, but then four doesn't seem right, so now we are back to three. The existence of the fourth being ignored entirely, for now....., it is like being lost in a hall of mirrors.

This process leads to an endless stream of modifiers, not to answers.

I have a specific question for you. You say that I am is a mistranslation, of what and what is your preferred translation.

 

Beautiful unadulterated response! I congratulate you.
We could lean in considering the entire book of Leviticus and the codification of practices as the development of hygienic practice, as well in pathological terms and in terms of cultural identity and identification or relationship to God.

 

Nope the NWT is, I like it because it restores the divine name in about 1500 places but some other bibles do that also.

Let's see, cult.

cult [kult]
(plural cults)
n
1. religion: a system of religious or spiritual beliefs, especially an informal and transient belief system regarded by others as misguided, unorthodox, extremist, or false, and directed by a charismatic, authoritarian leader
2. religious group: a group of people who share religious or spiritual beliefs, especially beliefs regarded by others as misguided, unorthodox, extremist, or false
3. idolization of somebody or something: an extreme or excessive admiration for a person, philosophy of life, or activity (often used before a noun)
the cult of youth
a cult hero
4. object of idolization: a person, philosophy, or activity regarded with extreme or excessive admiration
5. fad: something popular or fashionable among a devoted group of enthusiasts (often used before a noun)
has taken on cult status
6. cultural anthropology system of supernatural beliefs: a body of organized practices and beliefs supposed to involve interaction with and control over supernatural powers
7. sociology elite group: a self-identified group of people who share a narrowly defined interest or perspective

What did you mean by calling them a cult?

 

Mark

13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

No heaven, no Earth only words?

What was Jesus implying in this stanza?

 

That the underlying truth exists and is applicable to all things and processes regardless of the form that they take. We may have a cosmic collision but the redundant patterns of nature continue.

 

Yes

what are you like? You someone who says; "the obvious absurdities that are presented by the contradictions put forth in the bible and the contradictions that are fabricated to uphold them".

As for being your judge, No I'm not. Why, did I say I was?

Perhaps I am wrong but saying that the Bible has "obvious absurdities" and that there are "contradictions put forth in the bible" doesn't seem to be an attempt to inspire confidence in the Bible.

This is an admirable Goal.

The Idea is to post contradictions in the thread on contradiction and not not clog up this thread with them.

You're kidding, right? The title is only used three times but as an aside I pointed out the the King James Version which is considered some to be a very bad translation, noted for adding unsupported scriptures to the Bible, had added a fourth place where it was used but that most modern day translators consider it to be spurious.

 

It was hyperbole, He was saying that Heaven and Earth, although permanent will pass away before his words do this making his words more permanent than the permanent Heavens and Earth.

 

Will the Earth and Heaven be destroyed to make way for a renewed Heaven and Earth and who destroys it? God or man? Could it be that what Jesus said was not hyperbole?

Isa 51:6

Lift up your eyes to the heavens, look at the earth beneath; the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment and its inhabitants die like flies. But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.

2 Peter 3:11-13


The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

 

I made the statement I made. When you say I am like, you assign to me an association to which I do not belong.

To find the lowest common denominator and discard self contradictory definitions, makes things easier to understand, it clarifies terms and thus more clearly illuminates their function. I'm not out to inspire belief but to increase accessibility.

I am serious. Are you claiming that this aside as you call it is irrelevant and tangential?