Bible Questions?

Discussion in 'Sanctuary' started by OlderWaterBrother, May 17, 2009.

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  1. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    True, I just haven't heard it phrased in that way.:D....
     
  2. thedope

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    The entire old testament from the moment a deep sleep fell over Adam, depicts one thing in all of its' iterations. The contention for true authority. If we can appreciate this point, we may begin to uncover the esoteric embeds presented in the information.
     
  3. JusSumguy

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    Abraham was distraught by God's orders to cast them out to the wilderness and God told him in comfort.....

    Nation, in this context, carries the added meaning "usually of non-Hebrew people." In some texts it actually says religion instead of nation.

    I believe that these verses represent the very first breath of Islam.


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  4. honeyfugle

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    Perhaps not Islam, but certainly that Ishmael is the father of the Arabic peoples. Bear in mind even the term "Arab" pre-dates the rise of Islam. :) Most pre-Islam Arab peoples were believers in Pagan faiths, as well as some tribes who had converted to Judaism and Christianity. It was only after Islamisation that most Arabs converted and became Muslims thus almost eradicating these polytheistic traditions.
     
  5. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son s given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God [El Gibbor/God of Might], Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

    Isaiah 10:21 A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to [the] Mighty God [El Gibbor/God of Might].

    Are these two different beings, or one being? (NB: the "the" in the second quotation is not present in the original text)


    Is the child, born of the Virgin, "Mighty God"?
     
  6. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Why is the virgin birth such an integral part in so many varying deities births?

    What is so supposedly special about virgins as compared to non virgins when it comes to hosting a deity?
     
  7. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Malachi

    2:3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.

    That one was just for a laugh, heres the real question

    Mathew
    7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

    Mark Twain said there are "upwards of a thousand lies" in the Bible. But this is probably the biggest. How many desperate, frightened, broken-hearted parents have watched their children die while begging God to help?

    What does this passage mean, was it just placed there to give people false hope?
     
  8. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Like what.

    Buddha, Krishna, and Horus were all born of a woman who had some sort of sex, but under "miraculous" circumstances.

    Zoroaster's virgin birth only developed later after the spread of Christianity.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Because it's not the story that is ridiculous but your twisting of it that make you ridiculous. ;)

    I am getting use to your ignorant clap trap, you do seem to be full of it. :D
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    The Bible indicates that there are many who call god or gods but there is only one Almighty God. Jesus being refered to as a mighty god does not make him the Almighty God.
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I believe that scripture was talking about what's happening to you. Just kidding. ;)

    For those who understand the scripture it gives true hope but obviously neither you nor Mark Twain understand it.
     
  12. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    I quoted it directly... :rolleyes:
     
  13. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    How am I misinterpreting what it says, I fail to see what it is I'm not understanding can you clarify it for me?


    How does the said passage offer anything that a wish or a hope alone could not also do?
     
  14. thedope

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  15. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Why do the ten commandments not forbid the keeping of slaves?
     
  16. thedope

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    That which is truly forbidden does not occur. All things are lawful but not all things are helpful. You may look upon the ten commandments as a health or travel advisory. The keeping of slaves could theoretically be covered by a number of the ten admonitions. For instance thou shall not kill. How would you ultimately keep a person in bondage, by threat of death. Or what about thou shall not covet thy neighbors possessions, perhaps his strength you would want to rest from him and put to your own purposes.
     
  17. Rudenoodle

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    If stealing your neighbors television is important enough to be included in gods supposed commandments why is human bondage not also included in a direct manner?

    Could it be that the writers of said laws were themselves owners of human chattel?
     
  18. thedope

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    Certainly slavery has been a cultural standard and remains so.

    The whole "law" is designed to free men from their own inhumane remedies. Nothing is required to be given up except the effort to obtain value from unreliable sources.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    These are not direct quotes from the bible but they are direct quotes from you:
    :rolleyes:
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    There are none see blind as those who refuse to see. ;)
     
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