Bible Questions?

Well seeing this thread is about Bible questions, the answer is the Bible teaches we have free will and that we are not predestined.

The Bible answer to this is. yes there is.

 

Question: The bible is incomplete and has been edited by man.
What impact does this have on anything?
Why should I trust the bible to have answers if vast swathes of it is missing?

 

The Bible is complete and I'm not sure what you mean by edited by man.

The Bible being incomplete? None because it's not. As for the Bible being edited by man, so far no changes made by man has made the Bible unusable for God's purposes.

Vast swathes of the Bible are not missing, does that make a difference in whether you trust it or not?

 

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

 

I meant these: Dead Sea Scrolls
Wouldn't that make it more complete?
Didn't Constantine choose which books did and didn't make it?
In effect editing the bible.
I didn't say change.
Ommision is worse, imo.
Wasn''t there an editing process here too: Council of Nicea

 

Basically, to sum things up so far, the Bible is the Word of God because it says it is, and there is your proof right there.

 

Sorry neither of your links came up for me.
But here is the way I reason on this. I believe that there is a God and the Bible is his book. So to me, God has the ability to make sure that the message he wants mankind to have, is available to all mankind. So these orphaned Scriptures would would not have remained orphaned for very long if they were truly part of God's message to mankind. Also no matter how corrupt I believe the Council of Nicea to have been their effect on the message of the Bible can, at most, only be temporary; again, because of God's ability to make his message manifest.

 

If that's what you want to believe.

 

I fixed the links.
You know about them anyway so...
I feel this religion thing has got you by the balls.
Can you concede the bible has been edited?

 

WOW! I just have to comment, by that logic then if I or anyone else says they speak for god then it is true?

The bible has so many translations, transliterations, interpretations, mistranslations and out right lies and deceptions to make that assumption that it is the word of god is wrong.

You have a responsibility to sort the facts out yourself, just saying that it is your faith without finding the truth in it will always lead you down the wrong path. However it may be that leading you down the wrong path is what someone wants for you.

Real truth is not found in ANY book, it is found one piece at a time.

I don't know if you read what I posted about the languages of the bible, but that is a good place to start.

Just that one thread about heaven or hell (the christian dogma depends upon this) and there is no evidence of it to be found in the bible what so ever.

If you are very pious and what to know the truth you will need to read something other than the KJV of the bible. If you take the time to read passages from the Geneva bible or the Rotherham versions you'll see that there are many many inconsistencies between them all.

The geneva bible says "the wages of sin are the GRAVE! Not hell.

The Geneva and Rotherham versions were written before the KJV and are considered to be a more accurate translation of the bible. The original Latin Vulgate is also considered to be a more accurate version of the bible.

The KJV was commissioned by king james himself and he approved ever word and passage. This is why the apostle Jacob's name was changed to the anglo saxon name JAMES to honor the king james.

There are literally hundreds of "VERSIONS" of the bible, the famous quoted verse John 3 16 was never in any original version of the bible and has been removed and replaced several times. If this KJV or any other for that matter was the true word of god then why would people tamper with it so much.

You may want to see these videos https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=268031346E5EE384&search_query=achmed+dedad
This is a debate with Jimmy Swaggart and Achmed Didad. He goes over the endless versions of the bibles and their main differences.
I'm not of Islam but seeing Jimmy "I LOVE WHORES" Swaggart get ripped for saying that the KJV is the ONLY word of god is funny and informative.

Truth comes in all colors and peoples and books.

Saying that the absolute truth can come from a book that has been messed with by people for hundreds of years is to close your mind and stop learning anything.

Peace
Dan


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wtf The OT does so mention an after life ha

 

No it does not, sorry dude.

I'll be happy to read any post that proves otherwise.

BTW The NT does not either in the gospels mention heaven or hell.

Both references are to the grave and the kingdom of god.

If you are waiting for heaven or to see your enemies burn in the fires of hell and use the bible to prove it you come up short.

 

The holy City dude

 

revelations 21:8

 

if God wanted these "supposed" books of god then God would of had them come through and be in the bible. but then again since you dnt believe in God then you wouldnt understand his abilities and power.

 

u really do.

 

Constantine did not choose the books. The earilest Christian communities used the LXX canon as well as the newer books being written. The Synod of Hippo finalized NT canon. This was in 393. Constantine died in 337.

Failure.

 

if a jeasus falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it does he still rise again?

 

Me believing in what is written in the Bible has noting to do with historical figures.

Almost all quotations from Hebrew Scriptures in the NT comes from the GReek LXX and not the actual Hebrew Scripture.

Constantine was long gone when the canon was finalized (only to be reedited by Luther and subsequent schismatics). The Nicene Council cited had nothing to do with deciding a canon of Scripture. Constantine (as in Emperor Constantine who legalized Christianity, reign of 306 to 337) was not a Pope, as claimed by many (the Pope then was Pope Eusebius, 309 or 310, succeeded by Pope Miltiades, 311 to 314, succeeded by Pope Sylvester I, 314 to 335, and finally Pope Mark in 336 and Pope Julius I beginning in 337).

This has nothing to do with the message (whether true, sincere, or right) in in the Bible.

 

lol I was being sarcastic but thanks bro