Bible Questions?

I can agree with this... big time...

 

My big question is what does 1) this have to do with questions of the bible and 2) with Eve, who seemed to be the catalyst. How is Eve a "loose woman" exactly?

 

good post.

 

thanks.

I was going to rip on the guy, but then I realised that would get no one nowhere.

I also fail to see the connection between birth pains and whoredom.

 

How convenient

In my experience those two terms overlap...

 

The words going through my head were a lot harsher than what I'd written down I can tell you. But I'm not going to contribute any more to that discussion than I need to.
By the way, you may have been hit on by other's wives, but I have had the same experience with men. A lot of men try to hit on me. I just give them the evil "back off before there's trouble" eyes.

 

For starters, wikipedia is not the best source for scientific research but you will get some basic ideas and relevant references , and sometime even relatively useful article, depending on who wrote and edited it.

Here is wikipedia link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidelity

So, stop arguing about "MAYO clinic study" and try to find something you can get a grip on instead.



Next, here is the important part.

As a male I firmly believe in my limitless and inherent entitlement to have sex with any consenting adult woman ,regardless of my own marital status.
That's just how we males really are. We do know that we are entitled to have lots of sex when opportunity is there, we are raised like that from the beginning, we get the pat in the back and high-five , we score when we get a hot chick to sleep with us in the bed.
We are predators, we are not caring and compassionate to others creatures.
This is also one of the secret reasons why all fathers wish to have sons rather than daughters. They know what men are from their own self experience and they wish not one of their own children to grow up to be one of those being prayed upon by our own kind.


We may not all fully utilize or use all of our our entitlements (I, for instance, don't because am not an alpha male to begin with and not wealthy enough to have supermodels in bikinis tempt me all day long anyway) , but deep in the mind we all know how it is OK for us to have limitless sex with any adult consenting woman of our choice.
We may lie to you and say lots of nice, make you feel good things to make ourselves look like something we are not, but the truth is we are men and all men know they are entitled to have loads of sex.
I haven't seen a man who really, trully, genuinely believed or said otherwise in privacy of all men around conversation.
In fact having sex with lots of women is what we inherently think a true meaning of our life to be.

This being said, we hate to even think of our partners , our own wives , mothers of our children, of cheating on us.
We can't take that. It's a biggest and most unbearable insult for a man if someone else has sex with his wife, or a partner he is in committed relationship with has an affair.
In marriage it's almost certainly going to lead to the divorse (unlike when we have affair, since we consider it to be OK for us).
The outrageously unfaithful behaviour of our female partners could lead to other complicated consequences as well.

There is a reason why we invented all those bad words to describe women who cheat on us or have sex with many men. It expressess the degree of anger, humiliation and deeply felt frustration it inflicts or can inflict upon us when we find those innocent , beautiful and pretty creatures doing the deed with anyone but one man she must belong to.


So, let the men be men and enjoy their lives forever with as many women as they wish.
Let the women be women and enjoy their lives with the only man they are in committed relationship with.
Amen to that!

 

You don't honestly subscribe to that do you? Why on Earth do you think it is OK for men to have such a sexual freedom but for women to not? If all men thought like this the idea of marriage would be laughable. The idea that all men do is sow their wild oats and care two hoots for their wife? And that all women do is be the little woman who sits at home waiting for their husband to come home?
Somehow I feel a lot of these posts are somewhat trolling just to get a scornful female reaction. Otherwise I struggle to see how people in this day and age can have such affliction, lack of care, and seemingly, hatred for women.

 

How do you equate man's inherent desire to make love to the woman to be the manifestation of his hatred for the same?
What a convoluted logic is that

 

I equate that because you seem to think men are only entitled to have sexual freedom, regardless of being married. Even if all men had no care for being faithful and loving, surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander?
Besides to have such little care for your partner's happiness while you go off like the common slut and sleep with the entire town barely shows any love towards her. The pain it would cause her to be with a lying and cheating boyfriend you may as well have hated her.

 

Ah I see the problem here, you fail at being human, this explains much.

Do you also believe women don't enjoy sex?

 

Perhaps you mean males are a different species from Homo Sapience?
Interesting theory, please elaborate


As to whether women enjoy sex, you bet I wouldn't want to have sex with one who doesn't

 

I don't think so because I am me, I tell you what most if not all men really think and feel deep down , even if they refuse to admit so in front of women or act upon such feelings.


Next, why can't a man love bunch of women? How come you underestimate us so much? Surely our hearts are big enough to expand our love to many women, as long as we find them physically attractive.

It's all about real love and real care. I can't believe you are being serious and not trolling when you bring forth such outrageous accusations against men while all we do is express our deepest affection and care for you women (why else we wouldn't want to share you with other men ?!!)

Finally, I agree with you about lying and cheating, it's always bad. I think all men should be more honest and more openly exhibit how they really feel about this subject and they should make it as transparent as possible to their partners , wives and dating mates when they have an affair.
No lying and cheating are permissible in good, honest, close relationships!

:cheers2:

 

My problem is you saying that a man can love "a bunch of women" but a woman...no, she has to just be with just that one person, and no way can she ever be with more than one person! After all she "belongs" to the man, doesn't she?
Why should that be? What is good for the goose is good for the gander and if a woman wants to sleep around why should that make her a slut and a whore when if a man did it... oh they're just men.

Also, do you think many men are going to be honest about their affairs? They're going to tell their wives/girlfriends, "Hey, honey you see that pretty woman over there? Well I'm going to go and make love to her. Don't wait up". Of course. The only way that would work is in an open relationship and there aren't many women who'd accept their partner sleeping with any old slag while she wasn't allowed to. A proper open relationship would allow both partners sexual freedom, regardless of how possessive the man felt in seeing her as his own belonging.
And in a normal, closed relationship, if a man was caught to be sleeping around the town, I think it's fair that that relationship would be doomed once she found out about it.

 

Ever heard the saying life isn't fair?

You may not like it, as a woman, and i may find it pleasing to my senses, as a man. But all in all it is what it is. I didn't make the people think and feel way they do, i didn't establish cultural beliefs and customs. i came here as a guest and one day will leave it for endless others to come.
all i do is say well here is how it is.
whether i like it or not irrelevant to fact that it is the way it is.

If you want to get a better understanding of why there are such cultural customs and perceptions you may want to study history, psychology, antropology, philosophy and number of other subjects.

:cheers2:

 

Well to be quite frank, I've just spent the last nearly half hour on the phone to my husband about this (he's at work doing night shifts) and strangely enough he agreed with everything I said... even as far as saying that if he had an affair with someone else he'd have no basis for complaint if I did the same. That, my friend, is proof that not all men senselessly think with their knobs.
This has nothing to do with psychology. This is to do with outdated belief systems on the role of men and women.
Of course you find it "pleasing to your senses". After all, you've given yourself a God-given right to be a free-of-charge prostitute.

 

It is highly irrelevant what you think about me or what fairy tales your husband tells you to save himself from your wrath (that he "works nightshifts" tells me volumes about whom he most certainly doesn't want to share his bed with).

The fact is men are men and always will be.

If you think what i am telling you is an outdated belief system then just go to any place where only men hang out and find out first hand what most men really think about dynamics of male-female relationships (you would need to stick some beard and mustache to your face, wear a baseball cap and some dark glasses and pretend to be deaf and dumb so they don't realize you are a woman).
I would also note that the younger the age group of men the more profoundly do they adher to the belief system that you so vehemently deny to be in existence.

It is beyond my comprehension why you are insulting me with such vile name calling when i simply tell you what men really think about this subject.

 

Right... he works on a construction site by the way as a First Aid Consultant... so when I call him on the phone and hear heavy machinery in the background, the sound of him talking to other men about their work every so often and generally a construction site sound... that means he's in bed with another woman? Come off it. You're full of it.

 

Okay guys if you want to continue the conversation take it some where else.

This conversation has long ago stopped being about Bible Questions, if it ever was.

So once again please take it somewhere else. :toetap05:

 

I think this discussion had better stop then. I am not exactly a happy bunny about this conversation anyway.