Bible Questions?

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  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    So it can be said that you despise women?
     
  2. JusSumguy

    JusSumguy Member

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    As friends and whatnot. I got no problem with women.

    But, as soon as trust comes into the picture, that's where I get off the ride.

    I would sooner trust a motorhead (speed freak) with ANYTHING. At least I know I'm gonna get ripped up front.


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  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Actually men are actually more likely by every statistic to cheat. So about women being whores? And women work now while still being expected to do all the things they did when just house wives.

    Women probably just cheat and lie to you because you sound like a dick.
     
  4. JusSumguy

    JusSumguy Member

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    Is that you're learned opinion... :)

    Statistics actually show the opposite. But, apparently you know more than the facts.

    Either you're a woman, or another emasculated pussy. Look down, are your balls still there? :D



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  5. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    :rofl: Brutal!
     
  6. honeyfugle

    honeyfugle pumpkin

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    It would probably be better for you if you were gay. That sort of sexist, egotistical nonsense will never find you the kind woman you are having such a hard time in finding.
    So, what studies are these then, that call me a whore because I am a woman? By the way, I have only slept with one person my entire life, and that person happens to be my husband. I'm such a whore right?
    Seriously, go stick that fucked up little belief system of yours where the sun doesn't shine. And if it makes you happy, go stick another man's privates there too. I'm sure you'd find many other bitter, twisted, women-hating sods like you in which you can live out your fantasy.
     
  7. honeyfugle

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    Does it matter if TheMadCapSyd is a man or a woman? Fact is, not all men share your ridiculous beliefs.
     
  8. JusSumguy

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    BwaaaaHaHaaaaaaaa..... :D

    I got a freeway for sale too.

    Your righteous indignation points directly towards your guilt. :p


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  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Are you attempting to be truly helpful?

    But it does provide for the one he does find.

    No, it makes you inexperienced and unqualified on matters of whoredom.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Okay let's get back on track, asking and answering Bible questions.

    Here's an article I found on the subject:

    NEPHILIM

    (Neph′i·lim) [Fellers; Those Who Cause [Others] to Fall Down].

    This is a transliteration of the Hebrew word nephi·lim′, plural in its three occurrences in the Bible. (Ge 6:4; Nu 13:33 [twice]) It evidently stems from the causative form of the Hebrew verb na·phal′ (fall) as found, for example, in 2 Kings 3:19; 19:7.

    The Bible account describing Jehovah’s displeasure with men in the days of Noah before the Flood relates that “the sons of the true God” took for themselves wives from among the attractive daughters of men. It then mentions the presence of “Nephilim,” saying: “The Nephilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones [Heb., hag·gib·bo·rim′] who were of old, the men of fame.”—Ge 6:1-4.

    Identity.
    Bible commentators, considering verse 4, have offered several suggestions as to the identity of these Nephilim. Some have thought that the derivation of the name indicates that the Nephilim had fallen from heaven, that is, that they were ‘fallen angels’ who mated with women to produce “mighty ones . . . the men of fame.” Other scholars, focusing their attention particularly on the statement “and also after that” (vs 4), have said the Nephilim were not the ‘fallen angels’ or the “mighty ones,” since the Nephilim “proved to be in the earth in those days” before the sons of God had relations with women. These latter scholars hold the opinion that the Nephilim were simply wicked men like Cain—robbers, bullies, and tyrants who roamed the earth until they were destroyed by the Flood. Still another group, taking into consideration the context of verse 4, conclude that the Nephilim were not themselves angels, but were the hybrid offspring resulting from materialized angels having intercourse with the daughters of men.

    Same as “gib·bo·rim′.”
    Certain Bible translations adjust the location of the phrase “and also after that,” placing it near the beginning of verse 4, thus identifying the Nephilim with the “mighty ones,” the gib·bo·rim′, mentioned in the latter part of the verse. For example: “In those days, as well as afterward, there were giants [Heb., han·nephi·lim′] on the earth, who were born to the sons of the gods whenever they had intercourse with the daughters of men; these were the heroes [Heb., hag·gib·bo·rim′] who were men of note in days of old.”—Ge 6:4, AT; see also Mo, NIV, and TEV.

    The Greek Septuagint also suggests that both the “Nephilim” and “mighty ones” are identical by using the same word gi′gan·tes (giants) to translate both expressions.

    Reviewing the account, we see that verses 1 to 3 tell of “the sons of the true God” taking wives and of Jehovah’s statement that he was going to end his patience with men after 120 years. Verse 4 then speaks of the Nephilim proving to be in the earth “in those days,” evidently the days when Jehovah made the statement. Then it shows that this situation continued “after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men,” and describes in more detail the results of the union of “the sons of the true God” with women.

    Who were the ‘sons of God’ that fathered the Nephilim?
    Who were “the sons of the true God” that were involved? Were they men who were worshipers of Jehovah (as distinguished from the general run of wicked mankind), as some claim? Evidently not. The Bible implies that their marriage to the daughters of men resulted in whipping up the badness in the earth. Noah and his three sons, along with their wives, were the only ones in God’s favor and were the only ones preserved through the Deluge.—Ge 6:9; 8:15, 16; 1Pe 3:20.

    Hence, if these “sons of the true God” were merely men, the question arises, Why were their offspring “men of fame” more than those of the wicked, or of faithful Noah? Also, the question might be asked, Why mention their marriage to the daughters of men as something special? Marriage and childbearing had been taking place for more than 1,500 years.

    The sons of God mentioned at Genesis 6:2, therefore, must have been angels, spirit “sons of God.” This expression is applied to angels at Job 1:6; 38:7. This view is supported by Peter, who speaks of “the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days.” (1Pe 3:19, 20) Also Jude writes of “the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place.” (Jude 6) Angels had the power to materialize in human form, and some angels did so to bring messages from God. (Ge 18:1, 2, 8, 20-22; 19:1-11; Jos 5:13-15) But heaven is the proper abode of spirit persons, and the angels there have positions of service under Jehovah. (Da 7:9, 10) To leave this abode to dwell on earth and to forsake their assigned service to have fleshly relations would be rebellion against God’s laws, and perversion.

    The Bible states that the disobedient angels are now “spirits in prison,” having been ‘thrown into Tartarus’ and “reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.” This seems to indicate that they are greatly restricted, unable again to materialize as they did prior to the Flood.—1Pe 3:19; 2Pe 2:4; Jude 6.

    Increased Wickedness.

    “The mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame” that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with God, for they did not survive the Flood, as did Noah and his family. They were “Nephilim,” bullies, tyrants, who no doubt helped to make conditions worse. Their angelic fathers, knowing the construction of the human body and being able to materialize, were not creating life, but lived in these human bodies and, cohabiting with women, brought forth children. Their children, “mighty ones,” were therefore unauthorized hybrids. Apparently the Nephilim did not, in turn, have children.

    In Mythology.
    The fame and dread of the Nephilim, it appears, gave rise to many mythologies of heathen people who, after the confusion of languages at Babel, were scattered throughout the earth. Though the historical forms of the Genesis account were greatly distorted and embellished, there was a remarkable resemblance in these ancient mythologies (those of the Greeks being only one example), in which gods and goddesses mated with humans to produce superhuman heroes and fearful demigods having god-man characteristics.

    A Report Intended to Terrorize.
    The ten spies who brought back to the Israelites in the wilderness a false report on the land of Canaan declared: “All the people whom we saw in the midst of it are men of extraordinary size. And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who are from the Nephilim; so that we became in our own eyes like grasshoppers, and the same way we became in their eyes.” No doubt there were some large men in Canaan, as other scriptures show, but never except in this “bad report,” which was carefully couched in language designed to strike terror and cause panic among the Israelites, are they called Nephilim.—Nu 13:31-33; 14:36, 37.
     
  11. honeyfugle

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    OK, you do not have to believe me. You can plainly laugh in my face all you want. The Lord will know what is true in my heart. I don't have to prove anything to you.
     
  12. honeyfugle

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    Perhaps. If he is so longing to be gay himself then perhaps it was helpful.
     
  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    How about both? Just to fuck with your mind.

    But please, some statistics, because everything I've ever seen has shown men are about 15-20% more likely to cheat
     
  14. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    I would nt be surprised.
     
  15. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    maybe your just attracted to 'em chickheads........ and maybe that says that your a busta..... ;) :D
     
  16. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    well yes and no.

    I read in a book that women tend to get less happy married after the first few years and cheat...:( then men who actual become more happy once married.

    but I think were both to blame men and women.
     
  17. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    THE DOPE SHUT THE FACK UP


    sorry for the language.... but the guys a total idiot trying to sound all poetic and stuff..... I REALLY doubt you talk like that in real life you loser....
     
  18. honeyfugle

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    Woah, calm...take chill pill...;)

    But seriously, Jussumguy, that's not like you to say things like that. I have a lot of respect for you as well, but not for your beliefs on women. I've seen you around the forums and it seems really out of character for you to be saying things like that.
    Speaking with a calmer head, all i can say is, don't let bad and bitter experiences cloud your view of all woman-kind. We are not all bad.
     
  19. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    For those who may be wondering, cynical, or synical, is a play on the syllable, sin.

    Definition, "mistaken".
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Not to be on either side of this question but although statistics are interesting and can be useful as a guide, one shouldn't use them as proof of something.

    In the case at hand, how do we know how those statistics were gathered. A questionnaire? Do we know if the sample was large or small or if people answered truthfully?

    For instance both JusSumguy and honeyfugle are using their personal examples and neither is a high enough sampling to be statistically meaningful.
     
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