Bible Questions?

Discussion in 'Sanctuary' started by OlderWaterBrother, May 17, 2009.

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  1. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Maybe he's suffering from Alzheimer's disease :eek:
     
  2. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Male and female are equal. Ontologically different, but equal.

    also in response to our earlier thread of conversation: mortal and venial sins are considered different things in a way. mortal sins are those that are conscious rebellions against God. I am actually currently in this state because I have yet to attend confession. venial sins more accurately reflect the "missing the mark". this is the thing we do, and then catch ourselves afterward as understanding to be wrong.
     
  3. thedope

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    Did Jesus ever ask any one to confess a sin to him? "No more do I accuse you, go and sin no more."

    Who is that has made these considerations of sin? Is it your church? Give unto your church what belongs to your church, but give unto God what he commands, your love.
     
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    It's exactly like my moments I spend with you.
     
  5. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    We've shared "moments?" :p
     
  6. thedope

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    We've shared a life time of experience common to all men. No ones suffering or joy is special or reserved. It is shared whether we are aware of it or not. Nothing is hidden that is not revealed.
     
  7. thedope

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    So we move from the old testament to the next point of departure, the gospels.
    The account of the messiah or Christ the anointed one or true authority, come to restore the law, or restore the true authority.
    The debate over authority begins with the advent of the new kind of man. Not coming from God, but from within the body of man. It is this false accounting of man that Jesus seeks to dispel. My fathers house is meant for all natures, but you have turned it into a den of robbers and thieves.
     
  8. def zeppelin

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    I have been considering this lately and it makes sense to me. I am just uncertain if there is a difference to God, or if we are ending up splitting hairs.

    But personally, I see a difference.

    A difference between being uncertain that something is a sin or unaware of the sin due whatever reason (Maybe lack of parental guidance, in a weak mental state, being overtly 'open minded', et al) and knowing full well something is wrong yet perusing it anyway with the direct intent to inflict damage on others and the relationship we have with God. To me, the latter is an expression of evil and the former is an expression of the fall. Not sure if you not going to confession is what I personally would consider evil, but I think you get my point... or maybe not because maybe I am not being all to clear.
     
  9. thedope

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    We live in a state of ignorance. Forgive them they know not. Our own sorting out does not matter, we don't know where the pieces fit. That is why there exists the debate on the matter.
     
  10. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    I think it does. If we use the analogy of God as a Parent (imagine that!) then do you not think that he would treat different sins differently. A parent will not punish children equally for different degrees of misbehaviour.

    This is not to say that not all sins are evil in the eyes of God. If someone dies without confessing that they lies on their deathbed in order to not make someone mad, does God sent them to hell even though they did not confess? This idea where God would seem unjust lead to the formulation of the definition of purgatory. Even the tiniest sin needs to be fully eradicated (not merely covered like some Protestants will say) before seeing the glory of God, as it says in the final book of Scripture nothing with a stain can enter Heaven. Purgatory is for the saved so that they in fact may partake in the glory of God. the lost are lost.
     
  11. thedope

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    Parents, Do not confound your children. You would teach them different degrees of misbehavior? A man should love his son just as his father loves him, and he will grow strong in truth, not wise in deception.
     
  12. Rudenoodle

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    White noise. :rolleyes:
     
  13. thedope

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    Just to say that the qualities presented to me in my life are equal in every respect to yours. I am spared no pain, I hold promise to no special joy. Your joy is equal to mine, already.
     
  14. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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  16. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Is this passage supposed to sound this cynical?

    Genisis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
     
  17. thedope

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    Mans interpretation of himself and his brother has been inherently cynical, or synical.
     
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    It's not cynical.

    It's punishment for being a slut. She screwed up a lot of things. Set the tone for how women, and their need to cause trouble, will traverse time.


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    Is that your opinion of women in general or just Eve? :confused:
     
  20. JusSumguy

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    This might not sound like me, but here goes......

    I, nor anybody I know, have ever met a woman that didn't cause trouble amongst men. Nor have I ever heard of a woman who can keep her privates for her man alone.

    Women lie, cheat and pit men against each other. And for some reason they have been able to twist it around to appear as if men are the culprits.

    So yeah..... it's my opinion. It would be convenient for me if I were gay. But after 5 women (all of which I left because they slept with "friends") and six children........ I fricken give up on finding a woman who won't contrive. They don't exist.

    Women are weak and loud. They don't work and expect to be treated like queens. Bunch parasites if you ask me. Good for sex though.

    Oh, and if you think good women do exist, I have a bridge for you.

    C'mon ladies, let me have it. Because I have actual scientific studies, and I will quote them, which conclude, statistically and practically, that women are whores.


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