Bible Questions?

Discussion in 'Sanctuary' started by OlderWaterBrother, May 17, 2009.

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  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    He said to spread out and diverse, that seems to imply that he would not be in agreement for people gathering in large crowds.
     
  2. Skizm

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    Why has god never healed an amputee?
     
  3. weeattoes

    weeattoes what will be, will be

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    Why does that stupid fucked discriminate against everything.
     
  4. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    i believe God made a the blind see and brought back to life a girl and much more so i dont think its so necessary to write about everything he healed.
     
  5. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    :confused:...
     
  6. Skizm

    Skizm Member

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    I can heal the blind and bring back people from the dead. I can't however make something that isn't there reappear.

    It is easy to have someone say "omg i'm blind heal me", touch them, and suddenly they are healed.

    It isn't easy to make something from nothing.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    The Bible does not say one way or the other but I would say that God probably still thinks it's a good idea for us to be spread out or at least live in smaller groups.
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't believe God has ever been against large crowds but against living together in large numbers.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Like jmt said if God can resurrect someone from the dead, I would think that would pretty much mean he can heal anything and will do so in the coming new system of things.
     
  10. Skizm

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    Majority of the miracles done by Jesus can be faked. While I'm not saying that he was a magician that was just pulling peoples' legs. I'd like to see a miracle that can't be faked. ergo, an amputee
     
  11. def zeppelin

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    I see what you mean, but if you have a man that is known to have leprosy then one day does not, then I would imagine that would be hard to fake.

    Imagine having a neighbor that you saw everyday and you knew he was blind, then one day you saw this same man walk up to you and tell you that he can see and proved it to you. That's what seemed to have happened in the Bible.

    Also, this is 2k years ago. The people back then could not go to an eye doctor and have surgery and for it to be effective as it is now.

    What would be his motive for faking this? I personally don't think a person such as Jesus who feels so strongly about principals such as love and honesty would try to fake anything. Not saying that it isn't possible, but that its hard to believe and that I don't believe it.
     
  12. weeattoes

    weeattoes what will be, will be

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    Its true.
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Although the way you phrased this is probably not appropriate for Sanctuary, I will try to answer your question.

    Yes God discriminate against some things like; . . .fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. (Galatians 5:19-21)

    But God does not discriminate against things like these; . . .love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. (Galatians 5:22-23)
     
  14. Skizm

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    I understand what you are saying there. However I will never believe any of the miracles because A) Medicine sucked then B)Disease and problems were rampant. It is so insanely easy to wrap a guy in rags, say he's a lepper, and then omfg he's healed! Same thing for a blind guy.

    I'm a very proof-oriented person. Give me solid proof and I'll consider it, if I believe the proof to be sound and reasonable I'll add the belief to my world view. Give me fairy-tales about an undead space jew and say it's non-fiction and I'll call you an idiot.
     
  15. def zeppelin

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    Fair enough :) These are leaps of faith.

    Although, I'll add something to the 'undead space jew' comment. I mean, the undead makes me think of a zombie. Somebody or some previously living thing brought back unnaturally and brought in a state they were not in beforehand. Jesus wasn't undead, he was brought back to life fully repaired except for the nail wounds to prove to doubting Thomas that he was the man that he saw die.
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Almost anything can be faked, even the healing of an "amputee" but the difference is that Jesus actually healed people and was not faking. If the Bible said that Jesus healed an amputee, would you suddenly believe? Probably not. You would probably just consider it to be just another thing that could be faked.
     
  17. weeattoes

    weeattoes what will be, will be

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    But god also discriminates against personal beliefs.
     
  18. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Yeah, there is always room to doubt.

    It reminds me of this one X-Files episode where Skully is looking over an invisible dead body. She works on the body for hours and even days, then the body goes missing then later on doubts that invisible bodies are real or a possibility.

    Doubting Thomas could have thought Jesus with the wounds was some sort of hologram, his twin brother, et al... the list goes on.

    Sometimes leaps of faith are required.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    People keep saying this; give me proof. But what would you consider to be proof? Most peoples standards of proof for the Bible and what it says are so high that if they used that same standard for everything in their lives, nothing could be proved.
     
  20. Skizm

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    The undead space jew is just something my friends and I throw around when we're giving our religious friends crap.

    I want to state though, I fully respect anyone's right to believe whatever they want. However, when their beliefs start affecting my life I will trash their beliefs.

    My douchebaggy-ness comes from people trying to tell me what to do with my life according to their beliefs.
     
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