Bible Questions?

Practically speaking, it is a way of getting people to serve God rather than to just avoid sinning. If we're born with sin, there's a reason to atone, which can mean doing good works, fellating a priest, or just putting a bit of loose change in the collection plate now and then. IT'S WIDE OPEN. It does also have nasty connotations pertaining to infant deaths and the mentally handicapped, but hey, them's the breaks.

 

I'm sorry, could you be a bit more specific, some when they say Judgment Day mean Armageddon and they are two different things, also there are several judgment days but there is one final Judgment Day is that what you are asking about? Maybe you could cite the Scriptures you are thinking of? That would be helpful.

 

The things you mention are not supported by the Bible and thus you need to take them up with the "Churches" that say and do them and not with the Bible.

 

Yes, you are correct. Jacob wrestled with one of God’s angels. God uses his angels as his representatives.

Although the Bible does not directly say that Jesus and the Archangel Michael are one in the same, here is an interesting article that reasons on the subject:

Who Is Michael the Archangel?

THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending God’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name—“Who Is Like God?” But who is Michael?

At times, individuals are known by more than one name. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also known as Israel, and the apostle Peter, as Simon. (Genesis 49:1, 2; Matthew 10:2) Likewise, the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth. Let us consider Scriptural reasons for drawing that conclusion.

Archangel. God’s Word refers to Michael “the archangel.” (Jude 9) This term means “chief angel.” Notice that Michael is called the archangel. This suggests that there is only one such angel. In fact, the term “archangel” occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural. Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel. Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

Army Leader. The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.

It’s okay, I opened my self up for it when I started this thread, so fire away.

 

When Jesus was on the mountain being tempted by satan. After it was all done he said... "Get behind me satan." And then he had the Archangel Michael take him to Heaven and put him under guard by Michael.

There he sits to this very day, his spirit, and minions still wander the earth, but he (satan) physically doesn't. He's locked up in heaven waiting on the sixth trumpet, the sixth vial and the sixth seal to be revealed. Sound familiar? 666

He will reign on earth during this time until the seventh trumpet, seventh vial and the seventh seal are revealed. This is when Jesus comes down from heaven. At the same instant satan, all his souls and minions are cast into the lake of fire. These are "the first to go."

Interestingly, some churches teach of a "rapture" (which is nowhere to be found in the bible) based on the single verse in the bible which says ... "and the dead in Christ will be the first to go." Meaning, the first to go at the emergence of Jesus from Heaven. They turn this around to mean that those that are already dead, but Christians, are lifted up out of their graves and go away with Jesus. Jesus isn't going anywhere. He's coming.

The dead in Christ means just what it says. Those that are dead, soulless, and lost to satan, are the first to go. AWAY WITH satan. Because the bible says so.

Also, it says.. "to be absent from this world is to be present with the Lord." When you die, you/we go to Heaven to await our judgment. Nobody comes out of a grave. Nobody is in those graves. They're either on earth or in heaven.

Christians aren't going anywhere. Only satan, his souls and minions go away. The lord transforms the earth for the rest of us.

But I digress, sorry.


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What if that intelligent life were in favor of choice for abortion, homosexuality, and the fact of evolution?

What if they could explain the creation of life from non living material?

 

Then they wouldn't be very intelligent, would they?

 

satan ISNT in heaven..payaso. the christains that believe in the rapture which am STILL studying about not only use one verse...... shows how little you know:svengo:........


as being absent from this world is to be with the Lord....... means when your not with WORLDLY THINGS your in Gods right pass not what you posted.....

also the sixth trumple HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 666.

 

Sorry bro.... but I'm right on the mark on this.

This is straight from scripture. Not some belief.

And the rapture is based solely on that one verse. I'm very sorry if I stunned your sensibilities, but it's important that you know this stuff. Just xtra baggage.

Do you actually read the bible? It's all right there. Get yourself a Strongs Concordance and have your own bible class every night. Like I do.

It sounds like your just reciting in bible class and taking what they're teaching as gospel. Your soul is YOUR responsibility, not some idiot that teaches that crap.



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I fail to see how you would come to that conclusion but it's your opinion, do you truly think if intelligent life was found in the Universe it would not have a profound effect on religion?

 

can you back up anything with verse for once??


666 is a mark.

 

It was a joke and obviously yes I do think it would have a profound effect on religion, mainly because I believe God and his angels and Satan and his demons are intelligent and have had a profound effect on religion.

 

JusSumguy and jmt, I've been trying to follow your discussion and I'm at a loss trying to figure out what Scriptures you're talking about. Remember this is Sanctuary and you are allowed to cite and even quote Scripture, as long as you don't try to quote the whole Bible.

Just a couple, JusSumguy you said; "After it was all done he said... "Get behind me satan." And then he had the Archangel Michael take him to Heaven and put him under guard by Michael." and I'm having a spot of difficultly finding that Scripture.
And jmt since you're looking into the Rapture, citing a few of those Scriptures would show us that there is more than one and allow us to compare them.

 

OWB its been you and Ukr-crn who i have discussed the rapture with i guess i might as well post my studies about it here...........or should I open a thread???

 

rap·ture (rpchr)
n.
1. The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy.
2. An expression of ecstatic feeling. Often used in the plural.
3. The transporting of a person from one place to another, especially to heaven.
tr.v. rap·tured, rap·tur·ing, rap·tures
To enrapture.

 

Does the bible tell one to love there enemies?

Is that not an illogical and imposable thing to do?

If a young United states soldier becomes engaged into a shoot out with his enemy what solace can be found in the teaching's of Christianity, what would it direct him to do to his enemy?

Can the term "loving someone to death" be taken as literal in this example?

 

WEll noodle in the Old Testament I believe David had to go out and kill for God, but that was in Gods will. THis Iraq war I honestly don't think it was for Christianity and I doubt their would be "christian" soldiers out thier fighting if they were christian.

 

I'm talking about War in general not this or any other particular war.

Would it not be insane to agree to go to war with the intent to love the people who are in turn trying to kill you and you they?

 

Yes.

No.

Why would a Christian be a Soldier of any nation?

No.

 

Yes it would.