Bible Questions?

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  1. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    lol
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    ;)
     
  3. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    What danger did an open and easily understood language present to humanity?

    How would it benefit mankind?, it seems like it would just slow down progress.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Exactly, it would slow "progress". Does being where we are now, happening 2-3000 years ago sound like a good idea? If that would have happened, what do you think the chances are that we now would even be in existence?
     
  5. Hoatzin

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    Probably the same as the chances that we'll be alive 2-3000 years from now. That's assuming that progress took/takes the same path. We could expect that a lot more human beings would have survived the Black Death, and various other plagues and natural disasters over the years, for example.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I appreciate your optimism but things are starting to look pretty grim what with the economy, global warming, terrorism and the genetic engineering that you mentioned in another thread.
     
  7. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    With the possible exception of climate change, you can't seriously think that any of those things, combined or individually, are going to wipe out humanity. That's just plain silly.

    And besides, God visited plagues of locusts, floods, hordes of barbarians, the death of every first born son and so on upon mankind. How is that better?
     
  8. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    If we were at our current level of advancement 2000 years ago would we not have the philosophical tools that we have today?

    Or are you looking at advancement in civilization not in the natural stages that can be observed throughout history through trial and error , but rather as some kind of "delivered" wisdom from above, I,E one day god spoke to Fred and told him the secret of splitting the atom?

    Another gripe I have with Christianity is that it seems to toil in delivered wisdom, no one ever discovers anything it is all mandated and handed down from on high up above.

    As for having our level of technology 2000 years ago I believe the only draw back would be that during that time fascist religious lunatics with supposed direct contact to god dominated human civilization in many places of the world and of course would use the technology to "spread the word" of there supposed messiah or god, sorta like they attempt to today.

    Religion ruins everything and offers only false comfort for those ignorant enough to take it seriously.

    Just my opinion by the way.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well let's look at it, the economy, global warming, terrorism and the genetic engineering. Since you already allowed global warming, let's move on to terrorism. What do you suppose terrorists would do if they got their hands on a nuclear weapon? I personal think that might be detrimental to human welfare. How about genetic engineering? It wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that some scientist accidentally unleashes on mankind a genetically engineered disease that mankind has no immunity for that would turn out worse than the Spanish influenza. That leaves the economy, the economy has not even collapsed yet and it's already starving a good portion of mankind.

    All those things were under God's control but the plagues visited on us by mankind have no controls.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    And those tools have been so helpful to us.

    If God had not confused the one language, mankind would have arrived where we are now thousands of years ago.

    What did you have in mind? Religiously, yes it is all handed down. Scientifically, it's not handed down but then what has been "discovered" is only based on what God has already created.

    I would say an even bigger draw back would be mankind's extinction 2000 years ago.

    Yep, just your opinion.
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Thank you. This the kind question I look for, because it is a question that not just variation of the questions I've been asked a million times already but one that I'll need to research.
     
  12. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    What would lead you to believe if we became more technologically advanced at an earlier stage in our history we would be more likely to destroy ourselves?


    Would we not have also developed the reasoning and higher standards of life at a much earlier point in our existence as well?

    Perhaps we could have avoided the civil war or side stepped the bubonic plague?

    Perhaps Europe would never have been crippled by the dark ages and today we could be disease free exploring the cosmos?

    When you look at the world today who seems more hellbent on it's destruction after all these years?
     
  13. def zeppelin

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    To be fair, it's 2009, technologically advanced and we are very close to destroying ourselves. We are barely ready now - imagine 2000 years ago.
     
  14. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Your missing the point, in theory wouldn't we have roughly the same mentality as we have today 2000 years ago if he had made the leaps in communication and technology that we currently have?

    In other words would we not be the same people we are today simply 2000 years ago?
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    You misread the question. Why did God include these prohibitions in Mosaic law? Just to be arbitrary?
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes that is what I'm saying, only that this would now be 2000 years after that and since we are not solving the problems now, we would not have solved the problems then and we would now be extinct.
     
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    Arbitrary? What do you consider the purpose of the Mosaic Law to be?
     
  18. Okiefreak

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    Answer the question. Did God at any time care whether or not domestic animals were crossbred? Did God ever care whether or not two kinds of seed were planted in the same field? Did God ever care whether a person wore clothes made of two kinds of material? If so, why?
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes and the Bible doesn't say why.

    And now you answer the question.
     
  20. Rudenoodle

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    How can you say that we are not solving the worlds problems?

    Do you have some kind of information regarding aids research that would say it is futile just give up, how about cancer?

    Historically, smallpox was one of the most feared diseases in the ancient world. After an extensive and successful eradication program, the World Health Organization ( WHO ) certified the global eradication of smallpox infection in 1980, you don't chalk this up to progress? are you really that cynical?

    An apocalyptic view such as the one you have just stated does not surprise me in the least coming from someone who would consider the end of the world in a chaotic rapture to be a good thing.
     
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