Best Way To 'coast' In College?

The very idea of coasting through college, which is supposed to be a measure of your ability to get something accomplished, seems like nothing more than a waste of resources. What's the point of willfully wasting resources? It's like never shutting your car off, even when it's parked.

 

i agree that an educated populace is a valuable goal for a government. i'm not sure that our government sees it that way though. knowledge is power, and sometimes the powerful would rather not share.

my point is - everything your saying is great. but it's idealized. and it wasn't the deal when they signed on the dotted line for the student loans, so it's kind of foolish to expect that to change now. but again...it's pretty easy for me to say this when i have $0 in student debt.

 

I know - but you can make people sign anything, if they need something.

It's idealized, but I'm an idealist (in some ways). It's not impossible, education is free, or costs nearly nothing, in many countries - it used to be that way is the US, too. We've got to argue for what we need, not for a tiny bit less of what's destroying us, or we can't possibly stop the march towards societal disaster - and of course, the people we're arguing with don't see the disaster, because they're the ones who are set to benefit - for some reason it's only class warfare if you're not rich, if you are rich, it's just natural and right and how it is.

I don't have any debt either, and am about to graduate - I have a great family, but I still can empathize with those who are not in my situation - I've seen friends have to do things like leave college for the armed forces because of their debt, which is horrifying.

People will do what they have to - we can't condemn people just because we've been forced into a sociopolitical donner party situation.

 

I worked for top grades in school (A levels-its similar to US bachelors degrees... supposedly).
Then I part coasted and part worked..moderately hard at law school.
Looking back, I wonder if all the drinking and hellraising I did was overdone.
But then, I think, I didn't really like the idea of being a lawyer. So maybe I should have done fuck all, and gone into business earlier.
Fuck knows. I'm not even sure in hindsight hehehe!

Also I don't think you can "semi coast". You are either focussed or you aren't, IMO.

 

I've got "ADD" as its called. Altho I refuse to take any big pharma shit for it.

I basically arrange my day my own way. And find other people in my activities tend to have a similar mindset.
The idea its a "disorder" is fucking ridiculous. I mean I dont call "non ADD" people "one trick ponies" or "non multi-taskers" or whatever.

I also find that I prefer teaching myself a lot of stuff. UNLESS the teacher is really smart - whole brain type learning.
Sadly most teachers are shit at teaching. Infact they'd be shit at it in RL... so they teach whatever it is.

 

people go to college for employment, and generally aren't that interested in learning any more than they really have to.

I've also seen cases of many people that can study something technical, pass the tests by regurgitating highlighted info in a text book but still aren't really grasping what matters. they don't really understand why it is designed that way, and the reason that it works. without this type of understanding they are incapable of innovation themselves.

 

What really matters?^
Different things matter to different people.

 

How the fuck would you know what my career has been up until this point? All you know is what I currently do, and you only know that because it is information I have volunteered. I could bullshit and call myself a lawyer, but then anyone can go to school for a law degree and call themselves a lawyer, regardless of how much they suck or the fact they cannot find clients to save their life. I am only 33. I have my whole life ahead of me to do amazing things. Sometimes it takes people longer to figure out what they really want to do, and there's not a thing wrong with that. Most people don't even stop to consider what they really want to do with themselves. They go through all the motions that are expected of them, but they may not necessarily be happy in the long run.

 

I can relate to this 100%. Imposter syndrome. Someone should make a thread about it.

 

I didn't 'beg' for shit, They handed it over, Hand over fist!
Look what we have running the united states, More 'rounds of golf' played than meetings attended and he thinks we should pay him tax? Fuck up the country and put us in the trillions, That's what the dumb bastard wanted, Ill surely take advantage and milk it for all its worth!

That's not the bullshit the I kept hearing for administration and the loans department. I was told the 'how to' loophole from the college people! They had a slush fund and if it didn't go, They wouldn't get that much again. So they started opening up the loopholes for many to use. Its just as much their fault, And yes many did say you will be able to do X in the field of choice. Not all colleges are there to teach and help!



I don't care what they say or the current 'law' says, I talked with my lawyer and I still can claim bankruptcy anytime I choose to pay him to file papers and walk away! That's the beauty of America, Loopholes and lawyers!

 

hmmmmmm thinking about it....Innovation is an interesting word. I gave a speech at graduation and that was the topic I spoke on....

I am always looking for new ways to do something....and am always original...I could never stand being a copy cat of someone else, and colleges just don't teach you that, and there are very few gifted teachers..........

 

I bet your town has a food bank where they just give food away! How much money money have you wasted on groceries over the years?

 

well how closely can you measure? what's the measurable difference between graduating with honors because you spent 4 miserable years in a library, and graduating with honors because you were drunk for 4 straight years but still graded just as well because college is currently dumbed down enough that anyone smart enough to scrounge together $5000 a semester is able to attend successfully?

 

Graduating with honors generally requires at minimum a cumulative GPA of 3.4, completion of additional honors curriculum and a research capstone.
I think it's pretty obviously untrue to say that college is so dumbed down that a drunk who doesn't take it seriously can accomplish that.

 

The drunk doesn't know how to do anything. His boss will figure it out right away, if it wasn't obvious in the job interview.

 

Being drunk doesn't mean you can't do anything, enjoying yourself doesn't mean you can't also excel.

But your approach to being drunk absolutely can mean that.

Basically, alcoholics fuck life up and even if they graduate, won't be qualified after college - and it will be obvious, as karen said. You can be drunk without being an alcoholic, it depends on your thought processes and the nuance in your behaviors and habits.

Some people can do it - most people have the wrong mindset before you even finish telling them they can be drunk.

 

In college, I partied on Friday night, Saturday, and Saturday night. That's all. That was enough, but not too much.

Slackers in school aren't going to have good answers to job interview questions like these:

The last time that you wrote up a formal business plan for a class project, what was the business model for your fictional example? What were the key aspects of its cash flow? What was your plan for establishing and growing its customer base?

I also have a block of questions that get deep into the complex ways that existing labor laws address diversity in the workplace, and how a supervisor might apply them. By this point, the business student who has coasted through school is already showing classic the facial expression and body language that communicates to me, "I'm so fucked!" If they survive that round, we move on to liability law and taxes.

 

Twenty years ago, huge corporations had room for white collar who had a very narrow focus, who were content to more or less ignore everything outside their specialty area. If you had decent basic skills, the company would teach you what they wanted you to do. Today, downsizing and outsourcing have ended that for everyone except information technology people. Employers are in a position to demand much more. You need to show them that you have a lot to offer, from day one. Ignore that fact, and you may end up with a very expensive diploma that isn't worth anything to you except for its food value. You can eat it for the fiber.

Smaller companies demand even more of you, and their share of the employment pie is growing.

 

I think you took my post in the context of rebuffing yours, which it was not - it was pointing out that sliding through isn't the right way to approach it (and that even if it seems to work, you won't get anything from it), but there's a wide range of possible behaviors, alcohol intakes, and the like, depending on the individual and the individual's mindset.

If you get drunk and go out and go to parties or bars, yeah, you do that every night and you won't EVEN slide through - if you swing by a friends house for drinks before going home to prepare your business plan, you'll be fine - if you have the personality necessary.

Basically, if you don't act grown up, even if you don't drink, you won't slide by. Act like a grown up.

 

I don't disagree with you.