Atheist Quotes

but the idea put forth is just so completely basic and obvious that for people to applaud it to the point of thinking it is some revelatory proclamation really is disappointing and scary at the same time.
I honestly thought that folks who like him were intelligent and educated, but I guess no more so than the followers of religion that they erroneously feel superior to.

Dawkins also makes another erroneous assumption.
he assumes that "supernatural" events do not occur based primarily on his own experience and he discounts the testimonies of others who claim to have had such experiences.
only a fool thinks they have a monopoly on experience.

 

I would more accurately say an unrecognized assumption exactly as he stated it

 

Scientific method = eating a peach

 

Yes but peer review can be a failure. We are our only reliable measure.

 

question
how do you apply strict scientific method to completely subjective experience?

 

Eating a good peach can also be a spiritual experience

 

He doesn't know, The method is without qualification. whether the bedroom or the boardroom, or the bathroom
many rooms in the house

 

I have, waiting for your reply.

 

No, those are things we make of our subjective experience.
Now you know that you are real.
If that were the case Meagain you couldn't state a fact if your life depended on it.

 

so than according to your logic presented there, what do you say about speaking in tongues?

it is an experience/event that many, many countless people have experienced throughout history, very often openly among many witness's and they are all pretty much in agreement concerning manifestation, cause and result.
it has also been studied scientifically and as of yet science can offer no solid, definitive explanation for the phenomena.
I have also recounted to you my personal experience, and I do not believe I present myself here as delusional, mentally ill or any other such thing, so therefore my personal account should also be considered valid, true?

Am I to assume then that according to the metric you proposed, that speaking in tongues is a normal occurrence?

 

I was generally interested in a reply to the question, no hidden agendas. I wanted to see various perspectives in regards to the pope's comment.

When Dawkins says "that we might fall to our knees and worship it" regarding science of the future he is bridging a gap, suggesting people involved with secular science can be in awe in a similar way to religious people are when they worship.

 

Are you still of the same humble opinion Meagain?
If you don't want to answer in this thread please say so.
We are trying all of us trying to develop sound consensus about this miraculous world within us.

 

I think awe should be reserved for those things that make your mouth soundlessly drop open. I accord everyone respect as a human being. I am loyal to those who desire my company, and I am respectful of elder wisdom.

 

I think schrodinger's cat ate someones tongue

 

I know, it's not even a provocative title. I don't understand the incessant need for the religious to try and analyze these quotes. Did they run out of interpretting their own text and quotes? Are there not other religions who quotes they can dissect. Seems like a microcosm of the batshit insanity that plagues extremist viewpoints.

 

Meagain the comments I make are just fire in the belly.
Of this;
Relative truth must be dualistic in nature.
No, the universe is every bit informed
We are relatively informed or informed by our relatives. There is no separation in becoming familiar.
Your split minded view of two systems results from the fact that you conceive some parts of you real and trustworthy and some parts of a sham that cannot be trusted. A reflection of how we view our neighbors and our world. So you struggle to strike the balance.
Your system does nothing but help you struggle with issues like these.