Are Transgender People Really Trapped In The Wrong Body?

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  1. Ashalicious

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    What makes you happy?
     
  2. drtyhppy2

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    Do YOU even know what the fuck you are talking about?

    I will repeat my point from the OP, you do not tell a schizophrenic that the voices are real and should be listened to. So why is it we are telling people, who most likely wrongly, believe they are trapped in the wrong body that they are? Feeding in to the delusions of a delusional person is detrimental to their overall mental health. I'm sure if you did tell a person that legitimately believed themselves to be the wrong body that they were not, they would get upset. It's not about not potentially upsetting the person, but helping them come to grips with reality and living the best life they can with that reality.

    Furthermore it's politically correct bullshit like saying that you can't tell someone something because it might upset them that fucked the whole debate in the first place. So thank you for contributing to the lack of intellectual discourse in this country.
     
  3. drtyhppy2

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    I think it's about time for more kittens... perhaps a puppy...
     
  4. thedope

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    Nothing makes me. I happily make things, accept things, and used to play with a thing maker that made things of plastigoop.
    What makes my unremitting happiness obscure are my complaints. But none are so important that I would choose them for more than a moment. Regardless if I ever got a score of right or wrong I would never choose ether over happiness.
     
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    Excuse me? Evidently you have confused your question with my position. Of course I know what I am saying. I considered and articulated what I wrote. You didn't. Do you even understand what I am talking about? You are not in a position to decide what is harmful or helpful in absence of a persons own perspective. Further you do not have enough or considered enough information to even come close to suggesting an abstract standard that accounts for the diversity of human potentials. If a schizophrenic isn't capable of apprehending the real picture as it is there is no reason to suspect anything you have said disrupted or contributed to any potential recovery. You think you got a handle on it obviously as you repeat yourself. The self sufficient comfort of agreeing with yourself doesn't present an argument that works for common understanding but might attract special interest. Fact is your moral compass is not the measure of potential healthy or unhealthy responses. It is always the case with those who sentimentally moralize about practical matters. They don't address the issue but rather battle with other moralistic arguments or attack any one as ridiculous that they can't process in their accustomed bombastic manner. The moral imperative of life is self interest and there is no other.

    As to what I said about your potential bedside presentation I did not mean to suggest that you would be taken wrongly or that it is not genteel but that you would be taken rightly as in regard the dimwitted affront to human dignity and personal recognizance.. 'Obviously no one is in the wrong body but anyone can be chronically uncomfortable as they find themselves.. And this is a great deal more profound then the assertion of your petty personal world model. The hard ass has a hard time contending with a considerate position no matter how thoroughly benign. Life is fluid and cyclical and might surprise the convicted dead headers.
     
  7. Metal Groomp

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    When people say they're transgendered or any other silly sounding labels like agender or whatever, I think of mentally ill people. Something's not right in their head and they just want attention. You're born either female or male and that's it. It's what's between the legs that determine your gender, not "feelings".

    Honestly, I hate 'em all.
     
  8. thedope

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    Honestly if you hate them all you have been less than considerate of any. A correct view always inspires ease, never hate.
    It is the way you think that is responsible for your reaction. Every head is in best company with recognition.
     
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  10. Meliai

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    OP has clearly already drawn his own conclusions.

    as for me, I dont think I'm judgemental enough to care either way. Everyone is on their own path.

    everyone bitches about Jenner taking this public but in truth no one cared about this subject matter at all before Jenner.
     
  11. deviate

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    One of my neighbors is a tranny. He came over and introduced himself and then told me that he would be changing to a woman in a few months. I was like cool.. make yourself happy.

    The guy is married and she's staying with him. And I think he cut his dick off too.

    I think it's possibly some kind of mental illness, but I know that isn't a popular opinion.
     
  12. SpacemanSpiff

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    thats a good example of how stupid this world is

    most neighbours would just say hello or talk about the weather
     
  13. deviate

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    Yeah, I don't even know why he felt the need to tell me. I literally had just met him, it's not like it would've made a difference.
     
  14. Piney

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    I'm naive about the transgender community, but learned a lot from the thread accompaniang the You Tube song: Mister Sister by Kate Pierson.

    Its a bitchy, rolicking thread, the type that gives moderators headeaches.
     
  15. scratcho

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    Oh, I hate people doing what THEY want to do. It's just not right. I wish the fuck they'd consult me before they make these major life decisions. It's only fair because I-me-myself-this guy right here-----AM THE LEGITIMATE ARBITER OF ALL --REPEAT-- ALL DECISIONS THAT ANYONE FEELS THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE.

    Now straighten the fuck up.
     
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    Its a Trap
     
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  17. Moonglow181

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    Maybe they just wanted to get all of the important stuff out of the way first.
     
  18. scratcho

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    Annnnnd----my post 155 shows what and how hubris can affect what people will stick their nose into. If they SAY they're trapped-then whose business is it to say anything about how they feel? Petty, nose up your ass bullshit.
     
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  20. Moonglow181

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    and if some male wants to be a female, I say go for it...It is a lot better than some tough macho male horse shit going to Africa to kill something.

    but on the topic.....tattooing, piercing, those changing their bodies to become a cat or a lizard or whatever.....your body is yours....do what you want with it and to it......if it is not hurting anyone or anything else, and that is my stance on the subject.
    I dislike jenner for other reasons now that have nothing to do with what he is doing to his own body.
     

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