Are Transgender People Really Trapped In The Wrong Body?

i couldn't give a goddamn fuck about any of these people .. i don't understand why people find so much interests in the lives of people they've never met, never had a discussion with, and never will meet.

 

of course I have people I hold in high esteem, you might call them celebrities. mostly famous scientist, engineers and people like that .. people who have helped us understand our world.

 

You do not read well. I did not state it is not a science, I stated that it is a newer science that is still in the process of being developed as such. There are parts of the brain that still can not be mapped or explored and speculation as to their function. We do not yet have the means to explore those areas. We probably will in time but not at this time.

That does not reinforce your argument as it is about how those who are transgender feel. I stated "your" science in my opinion is flawed.

 

not suggesting anything.

what did you think I was suggesting?

the fact we were talking about someone and he stopped conversation by droping a racial slur?

 

If it is an act, then the man deserves a fucking Oscar.

 

You don't understand why people find so much interest in people they have never met because you added a statistic that is not verifiable, i.e. and never will meet. Will one way or interest in another doesn't exclude the chance encounter in which case it is possible you might care for a fuck for fucks sake.

 

Nor does insulting my reading ability reinforce yours. We are able to map enough of the brain to tell the difference between men and women, that should be enough to map weather or not trans people have opposite gender thought patterns. My contention is this: if a person is genetically a man, biologically a man, physiologically a man, and neurologically a man, they are a man. If said person "feels" like a woman they are delusional, and should be treated as such, not have their delusions reinforced.

 

It is Definitely an agenda by the media to twist the human race more out of whack

 

As of now I've only read drty's first post..

I've thought about this too, and I think you really brought up some great points with brain scans. It would be interesting if people feeling the opposite gender truly showed it in their brains wiring. Can't say I've ever looked into that before

My question to all of you is what is the difference between "finding" yourself, and accepting yourself? Shouldn't we be more supportive of people who let their personality shine, their true selves out? Being gay or straight is accepting yourself, but in fear of coming off as judgmental, going the route of transgender comes off to me as changing who you were suppose to be.
Cross dressing is a whole other subject and makes much more sense IMO.. Trinidad, CO is a town I've driven through quite a few times, and it's actually one of the very first, if not the first place to do transgender surgery. (Decade before this jenner talk) It's something I've thought about for a really long while, and I can't tell if I'm just being ignorant, but to me this is an industry of lies and regret for high price. I suppose jenner's media attention will be interesting on the subject. Personally to me that seems like she put a lot of pressure on herself which would induce a lot of stress and self doubt.

Going through puberty is a huge period (pun intended) of self growth and self acceptance. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's why we talk

 

Is that some kind of animated trophy. No fucking is deserved but all fucking should be reserved for mutual consent. If you would like to reward him for his act with a specific activity you can't count on another's response to express your admiration.

 

Yup, it's about creating confusion. Gender confusion, and just confusion overall while pushing the usual political correctness and establishing new "norms" that everyone must now accept to be considered a "tolerant," worthy member of society.

At the very least this shit is one big distraction from the fact that the ship is sinking... fast!

America is toast. For real.

But I am just talking conspiracy talk, and really everything is completely fine and the way it should be. I heart trannies.

 

Perhaps you might care to look up the studies that have been done by some of the following scientists,
Zhou
Kruijver
Chung
Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab
Luders
Rametti
Hulshoff Pol.

They might be of interest to you. You will also find many links to other studies that are supporting that there are changes in brain structure.

 

Exactly Cat, another reason I started this thread is because i think there needs to be an honest and open discourse on what transgender is and what the best treatment options are, and that includes being open to the possibility it is a mental disorder rather than a physical one, and right now because of political correctness i don't think that discussion can happen in the mainstream media.

 

Is that the cause of your confusion, because you didn't realize your dick is in your head? Experimenting with gender is a way to clear up confusion about it's workings.

 

If any of these scientists have any studies suggesting that there are brain changes in transgenders I'm all ears. Also perhaps post their full name instead of just presumably their first.

 

Oh is that what the latest authorized explanation is? Cool, man. I will be sure to memorize it and repeat it to others so I can appear "enlightened" and "intelligent" too.

 

You being trite about my word usage doesn't change the fact that if "he" is acting, he is doing a very good job of it. People don't get massive amounts of surgery for the sole purpose of publicity.

 

Also, I find it fascinating you were criticizing me for using neurology as a source of proof that transgender is real, and are now using it to bolster your own argument. So is neurology too new to be definitive, or is it an accurate way mapping brain activity? Can't have it both ways.

 

You can find toast in america if you really look.

 

Unless they're psychotic.