Very well said man. Loved it. When I was younger (younger than I am now that is) I used to wish I was born in the late 40's/Early 50's so I could have been around for the hippie movement. But I got older and obviously smarter about it all. I see people now (some older and some younger than myself) saying they wish they were around back then, I suppose in time they will realize like I did that they should not wish for the past, but the future and live for now etc. I usually say something subtle to them about they should live in the now, as sort of a hopeful push toward it haha
I just wanted to follow up on the Leary thing. Take this as my cynicism if you will but giving people drugs and having them chant slogans (either meaningful or meaningless) is one of the oldest forms of mind control known to man. This is how Cults get their followers not to question "The Leader". If you look at history there have been some very effective uses of this combination or parts of it. Hitler for one. Advertizing is another. Conspiracy theories. You get someone stoned and have them watch a 5 hour documentary about the Freemasons, UN, Trilateral Commission, and Shadow Governments while chanting New World Order until it means nothing they get the same glazed look in their eye that a cult member has. If you start to disagree with them they start telling you that you are the one who has been brainwashed. C/S, Rev J
Apology accepted. I wasn't trying to do any kind of aggressive "hippier than thou" thing. I just wanted you to know a little more about who I am before rushing to judgement. C/S, Rev J
Bloody hell.....................how good is your maths fella? It would have made him 18.................still underage by Aussie standards. I was in '67 callup and I was born in '48.
I agree Hippie is better than Baby Killer. But as my old man always said, "I don't care what you call me. As long as you don't call me late for dinner." C/S, Rev J
I don't know why you want to challenge me from time to time- - I think your a bright guy but here,s the deal >> -I was born in July of 1950- called up on the last draft they had - -they had others but none were sent to a combat zone- On December 1, 1969, the Selective Service System of the United States conducted two lotteries to determine the order of call to military service in the Vietnam War for men born from 1944 to 1950. To tell ya the truth - I never could figure why someone would lie about it- I did my 13 months and was out - physically unscathed- mentally & spiritually, well still working on that 43 yrs later regards, jj RooRshack- - - I also think a decade into the future- - wondering if Ill make it that far- peace jj __________________
Well, let's do the math... 2013 - 1969 = 44 Junglejack is 62 according to his profile age. 62 - 44 = 18 the draft age in 1969.
I still would of liked to have been a teen in the late 50's/60's though. I guess it's just how you're brought up because even my dad (he's 60) said that if he could go back to any decade he would choose the 60's. For a start the music was a lot better and actually meant something. You didnt have things like Facebook, Twitter, so you'd actually appriciate things a lot more. Gang crime wasn't like it is now - yobs and hooligans and what not But of course the 60's has the sad times like JFK and Martin Luther King Jr being shot, people that were looked up to as inspiratons. But today we are faced with awful things in our decade ( 911, terrorists, on going wars, countries where women still have no rights at all). So in a way, there is just as much bad in the world that happens now than the 60's. I am fascinated by the hippie movement back then and i wish i was a part of it then, i just think it was a better time rather than the society we live in now. ☮♡ Peace&Love
I wouldn't say it was better. There were just as many bad things going on then as there are now. Sure technology makes people more lethargic, but that's because they aren't utilizing it properly. If people would use it in a more constructive manner, the world would be a better place to live. I'd have to agree with the comment about the music, as well as the one about gang violence though. Then again, it's possible- especially with the advent of the internet- to find some outstanding music, past and present. And I'll admit, I really prefer the styles of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. But that just means I'll go thrift shopping, make my own clothes, etc. Not living in the past, not wishing to live in the past, but admiring the actions, courage, and some aspects of the culture of the people who did live in those times. Always learn from the past, but don't wish you were a part of it. Just make the best of the infinite contingencies of the future :2thumbsup:
You seem to forget a few things about the 60's, like the racial violence and lynchings, NO rights at all for gays, very little rights for women, seeing friends and neighbors coming home in body bags DAILY, seeing friends and neighbors get drafted, never to return home. My dad has/had 3 friends who as of the 90's were still considered MIA in Vietnam since 1966. Hell, smallpox was still thriving in the wild. The 60's get's such a romanticized glossing that younger people often just don't know how fucked up it really was. Myself, as an American male, have NO desire to go back to one of the most turbulent and violent times in America since the Civil War.