All Religions Are False.

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by RichardTheFrog, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. thedope

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    Yes you do want it that way. You want it that way so you can call me liar. Telling the truth about the concept of transgression will end it.The Hebrew root for the word sin, means to miss.
     
  2. thedope

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    Really. Name one bit of harm you or any have avoided. Seeking causing and avoiding are three different things. What is easy to one may not be easy for another. We may not perceive the best choice for any variety of factors. The only reason for the existence of the concept of transgression is so you can beat people with it. It exists as the claimants existential temper tantrum about something you find unpleasant. We have unpleasant sensations as a matter of course. Man is not a special cause. Man is not an insidious raper of all that is good. Your verdict is misplaced if you would like to see harm's end. We are energy behaving energetically.
     
  3. Dejavu~

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    LOL! Liar!

    There are a few roots. But we're talking about the etymology of sin, not which marks may have been missed in translating it as such. lol

    Regardless, I've found a special site for you. http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Meditations/Chata_ah/chata_ah.html :-D

    I am all for your suggestion concerning transgression.
     
  4. thedope

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    Who is we? I said I was talking about the roots we share. I also was talking about the root I was talking about, and I told you what it was. What was missed in translation? Like I said you want it to be that way.

    "Was it wrong of me not to bring your understanding to my own?"

    You don't realize you were conditioned to want it that way.

    Is it to kill a spirit lest it be real so that you can maintain the illusion?
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    " Sin has only ever been a myth."

    You have judged against and you can't apprehend the world with your good sense when you do that.

    You are all for my suggestion or you hold the world harmless?
     
  5. Dejavu~

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    Well, if there are six hebrew nouns and three verbs, all with differing senses, all translated as sin, then quite a bit! lol We is you and I. Discussing 'sin'. You want me to want sin substantiated? Why? Aren't you satisfied in finding errors in perception to be sins? lol

    To bring your understanding to my own? I was actually raised to share my thoughts. I don't have the heart to arrange marriages. You must read in my words what you will.


    I haven't judged against you, just overruled your conception of sin. lol :-D My good sense is to feel good and have good felt in others.
    I held an eagle in my gaze today. I held it to be free. The truth about the conception of transgression is that we can conceive better.
     
  6. themnax

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    one can equally ask you, who is this "we" to which you refer?
     
  7. thedope

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    I'm at a loss as how to deal with the pronouns, every one means us.
     
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    i am i, he is he, she is she, you are you. you were saying some "we" would be more likely to listen to me, if i were saying what you wanted to hear. i'm asking where any such "we" comes into it.
    unless you're saying your a kind of buddhist who says there is "no self and no other".
    you appeared to be assuming some 'royal perogative' to somehow represent and speak for everyone.
     
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  9. Rauel Rualbe

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    "Big Bang Theory" huh?

    You begin and end so the Universe must also.

    The speed of light is?
    Measured from what still point?

    Poor science is no better than poor religion.
     
  10. Mugwump

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    Agreed all religions are false insofar as the finite human mind is incapable of understanding the infinity that is God.

    Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, plus Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Wicca, Druidism, Spiritual paths of first peoples world wide, Agnosticism, and Athiesm are simply facets of the same divine diamond. We share a common ethic and spiritual path.

    Some of us share a common hubris. 'I'm right. If you disagree you're wrong.' Much blood spilled over that one. Thank you for your contribution to a long history of violence, suffering, destruction, and death.
     
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    Unless you are one of those totally insecure individuals who are so afraid of dying that you believe in a god and a heaven ... both are irrelevant ... We live on a planet called earth in a universe in which there are probably a gazillion trillion other beings. Why not just chill out and enjoy stuff? When you breath your last you'll find out if you were right or wrong.
     
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    Death is not a solution to anything.
     
  13. JamieDarke

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    Of course not. Its the beginning of another reincarnation.
     
  14. thedope

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    reincarnation? how about just incarnation, it doesn't end.
     
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    the djinn is strong in the forum these days..
     
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  16. thedope

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    The birds of the air have come to make their nests in the shade of it's branches.
     
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    if by false, is meant accuracy in relation to our physical universe, well yes, of course they are. but that's not the point of them and never was.

    as for the non-physical, we have absolutely no reason, to assume what we do not know, to be incapable of existing.

    only that being as it is unknown and unknowable, the probability of it resembling the speculations of any belief is somewhat low.

    as a critique, however, it still misses the point.

    the reason any belief exists, that people share with each other, is for those not bright enough to figure it out on their own, to encourage people to want not to screw everything up for everyone, including themselves.

    and there is certainly no greater truth, then that what you screw up, you still have to live with it being screwed up.
     
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    very pretty words. and true enough ones as far as it goes.
    it is a lovely aligory and an absolutely true one. however
    we are not birds of the air, nor fish of the sea,
    more to the point is that it is unlikely, those unable to figure it out on their own,
    are ever going to figure it out from that either.
     
  19. thedope

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    whatever this is a tweet from the airwaves
     
  20. themnax

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    there are many ways in which the title of this threat is absolutely true. there are also at least one or two in which none of them are.
    what i would not say, is that any organized religious belief is any more true nor false, then any other.
    what is definitely false is when the are used as an excuse for conflict.

    one thing i don't believe, is that a real god, any real god, would have the slightest desire to be worshiped.
    i also don't believe any real god would wish to see any of the names we have invented for it, used as excuses to make each other miserable.
     

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