All Religions Are False.

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by RichardTheFrog, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. Asmodean

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    Some 'sins' seem to really be a violation against someone else.

    What do we need to change about sin, if not just use a more appropriate word for it?

    edit: it seems you are not easy to quote well :p
     
  2. Dejavu~

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    Its origin has always had its meaning as such. Sin is no transgression, and not even an error in perception unless it is held to be so. Errors in perception aren't sins. The myth has you confused! Call 'em as you see 'em. :-D

    Remember, as you see'em, not as you don't. lol
     
  3. thedope

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    Learn how to see the world in terms of helpful or not depending on your desired aim as opposed to criminal or not based on amorphous moral constructs. Physical injury is an inconvenient encounter, the idea of harm by intention is a failure to appreciate life's ubiquitous motive of self interest. The only reason it exists is so that you can use it to beat up on things you don't like and there is no physical reason it should exist and you certainly don't need it to organize your life. Learn to view all phenomena harmless or unintentional.There is no physical difference between dying because a tree fell on you or dying because someone shot you. Forgive them, they no not what they do.
     
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  4. thedope

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    This is the worst treatment ever of any subject I've heard you speak on. you can't have it both ways either there a word sin or there is not. And since worlds are symbols for conditions, it has it's relevance. You are offering no authority whatsoever on the issue including origin. You are being obtuse because you can and it is starting feel like i'm being used as a rag for your spittle.
     
  5. thedope

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    The fall from grace is a deep psychic impression bought on by unbound spirit becoming creature and being frightened by the bolt of lightening, the crack of thunder, the roar of the wind, and the bitter bite of flesh grown cold. You didn't do anything wrong.
     
  6. thedope

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    Having been there I see both.
     
  7. Dejavu~

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    There is the word sin. You cannot change the origins of its meaning as 'transgression'. Research its etymology, don't beg my authority on the matter. I am no slathering sprayer of sayings. Your lies don't stand my scrutiny. Errors in perceptions are no sin. Let your intellect slake what it may from this.


    It's starting to feel I'm being used as a rag for your christ-teachings. lol



    Then explain how my treatment of sin is the worst treatment ever of any subject you've heard me speak on. I don't credit its existence outside of word and conception, you hold it an error of perception.

    I once let your 'missing the sign' slide by. :-D I should try and dig up what I wrote that time!
     
  8. thedope

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    But I can go back to the origin of meanings that we share. I know you, "let it slide." How could you not, the treatment is illuminating. Yes I do beg your authority on the matter and it was your authority on the matter that let it slide. Wake up book worm. It does no good for the dispelling of the illusion of sin by saying that is not what sin is. Such a treatment is retarded. You don't bring truth to an illusion and make the illusion true, you bring the illusion to truth and dispel the illusion.. How come you press me on this at this point and demand the etymological account decide the issue and disregard the fact that god is that which we invoke, (the etymological origin of the word god,) humm...? Is it to kill a spirit lest it be real so that you can maintain the illusion?
     
  9. thedope

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    Why do you want transgression to exist...to beat people with it.
     
  10. Dejavu~

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    I don't want it to. Lying about the origin of sins meaning won't end the conception of transgression. You have missed the sign. It's no sin.

    I let it slide. You did not trespass my person. Was it wrong of me not to bring your understanding to my own? My own is no lock-up. The illusion dispelled as illusion. Sin has only ever been a myth.
     
  11. Moonglow181

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    no lock up...like that, Deja.....
     
  12. tonydoe420

    tonydoe420 Banned

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    all organised religions are false and up to there neck in dogma. but that isn't to say all religions are false. there is a lot science still cant prove.
     
  13. Moonglow181

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    I keep saying the smallest particles follow their own rules and cannot be stamped into a cage of provement.......which makes it the wonder of it all, right? ;)
     
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    The religion of the future will be of a cosmic religion ,, it should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology..
    Albert Einstein ..
     
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  15. Moonglow181

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    ^cool
    einstein also said the definition of insanity is to keep banging your head into the same wall and hoping for different results.....

    my head has had it..... :dizzy2: :D
     
  16. themnax

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    absolutely right.

    as thinking creative beings, it is in our own individual as well as shared, benefit, to avoid causing harm. not because some super mega hierarch might judge us for doing so, but because we have to live in the world that results.

    we do not live in the kind of garden where every petal of every flower is the same color as every leaf. i for one am glad we don't. the flower transgresses nothing. nor the herbivour that eats the flowering plant, nor even the carnivour who in turn must eat the herbivour to live.

    there is only one "transgression", and that is when we, or our equivelant, seek to cause harm when we could as easily avoid doing so. and that is not against some invisible man in the sky. it is against our one selves.
     
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  17. Moonglow181

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    themnax, I could have not said that better myself....:)
     
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    everlasting enlightenment is evasive..
     
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    oh god, Im talking like dope now.. haha.
     
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  20. Gongshaman

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    "One of the most important things in life is to avoid interfering in someone elses"
    (Frank Zappa)
     
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