After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Hey!
    I'm back!
    Same old B.S. going on here I see.

    Looks like the thread got side tracked into home defense, nothing to do with school shootings and gun control proposals.
     
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  2. mcme

    mcme lurker

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    I agree. I'd made a proposal that I'm sure would curb gun violence and any shootings in general, but because it was considered biased against certain socially disadvantaged people and had nothing to do with banning any type of firearm it was quickly dismissed as already covered and deemed ineffectual.
     
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  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    One week until the 19th anniversary of Columbine. So long has passed current students were not even born and nothing has changed.
    2 other mass shootings within 40 minutes of my house since Columbine. At least no one claimed they were actors because personally I don't think my cousin is an actor. He was in Columbine and he still has severe PTSD.
     
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  4. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Banned

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    Existing large magazines have not been made illegal however. People are allowed to keep large magazines that they already have.

    And there is no difference between an old magazine already possessed and a new one purchased out of state.
     
  5. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    But it hasn't worked before. It didn't work in California and they have more mass shootings than any other state.
     
  6. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Though I must say that unless your life is being threaten, you shouldn't use deadly force. Because of castle doctrine, it's easily justifiable why would you shoot someone attempting to break in your house while you are an innocent person was inside. However if someone is on your lawn and won't leave then your chanves of winning that court case is slim.
     
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  7. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    The problem isn't with the guns nor is it with the human beings wielding those guns, the problem lies within the global subconscious of humanity & this idea that only me myself & I actually matter
     
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    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Watching for the mailman today. Got a half dozen 30 round AR15 magazines and a new folding stock due in any day.
     
  9. NotMyRealName

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    It was never about someone being in my yard. Although the left tried to make it seem that way when I discussed it.
     
  10. storch

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    Well, actually I asked a poster what gun proposals he would want besides denying guns to the legally insane and convicted violent felons. He said he wants to ban all semiautomatic center-fire rifles that accept detachable magazines that have two or more of these features: a folding stock, a grenade/flare launcher, or a flash suppressor."

    So I asked him how many grenade attacks originating from a semiautomatic rifle he was aware of. I also asked if a folding stock makes it easier to conceal a rifle when trying to sneak it in somewhere to do a mass shooting, and how many mass shootings he was aware of in which the shooter folded the stock in order to conceal it before shooting. I also asked how a flash suppressor would help a mass shooter; the point being that there's no one they would need to be trying to hide their intentions from at that point.

    He also said that he would ban all semiautomatic rifles that accept detachable magazines, but he also mentioned that the law bans magazines that can hold more than ten rounds. So he wants to ban semiautomatic rifles that accept detachable magazines, but not 10-round magazines. *shrugs*

    Given that semiautomatic rifles have been used in 3 of the hundreds of school shootings since 1984, and 18 of the most deadly mass shootings to date (12 of which involved shotguns and pistols along with the semiautomatic rifles), why the focus on the least used weapon?
     
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  11. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    No mail today :(
     
  12. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Did you know?

    There is a machete attack every 90 minutes in gun free Britain.
     
  13. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Source?
     
  14. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The source is The Daily Mail.

    The Daily Mail has been banned by Wikipedia as a source:
    So what? What's the range of a machete? Rate of fire? Destructive force?

    etc. Completely irrelevant to a discussion about mass shootings.
     
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  15. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    If that's the case the so called assault weapons should be irrelevant to mass shootings too as handguns make the bulk of the weapons used.
     
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    Don't expect any acknowledgement or agreement on that from the anti-gun crowd. All you'll hear is mindless repetition of "But the terrible folding stocks." And "But the terrible semiautomatic grenade launchers." And "But the godawful flash suppressors."
     
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    Cant wait to get the mail today.
     
  18. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    The NRA is driving for 100,000 new memberships in the next 100 days. At least $30 per member, minimum $3,000,000

    God bless America.

    Wake up and smell the coffee. Guns are American and America is guns.
     
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    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    My folding stock comes in the mail today for my flash supressed rifle and a 6 pack of 30 round mags.
     
  20. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Call it what you want but mass shootings use guns that allow many bullets to be fired in a short amount of time. What gun owners are willing to call "assault" is different in their own company. You know what guns are used and you know why you want them and why they used them.
     
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