Everything's physical. You can cover your ears as well as your eyes if you like! So you will come out of hiding to say the silence is the something it is? All vacuums are partial to the matter. They'll hear you out! You mean my lack of belief in monkeyboys 'nothing' from which everything is supposed to pour forth. We matter to ourselves. Whose? Monkeyboys? All thought's embodied. Your idea that just because the mind's naturally abstract there's therefore something 'non-physical' about it, is piggish, in a way you can't snout out! Entirely forgivable my dear porker! The question you should be asking is, can you make me a pig? Liar. You can change tack, but can't hide your track. Pigs have never made themselves into footballs pilgrim. I say they can be trained to push a ball towards a line. And I'm not going to train one to prove my point. Deal with it.
Won't give the answer to the question I asked of you. Matter does not have a universal definition, nor is it a fundamental concept in physics today. Matter is also used loosely as a general term for the substance that makes up all observable physical objects. Everyday objects that we manipulate are composed of atoms. Atomic matter is in turn made up of interacting subatomic particles. Typically, science considers these composite particles matter because they have both rest mass and volume. By contrast, massless particles, such as photons, are not considered matter, because they have neither rest mass nor volume. I don't have the problem you have feeling lonely without matter to matter over because I understand it all as energy. Your argument for matter while impassioned is not very meaningful. Not entirely sure it is monkeyboys being a comment taken from Avadar's description, if it is described this way it must be this... Skepticism gives you no information about the environment. Self flagellation is not as satisfying as mixing it up. I first met him in 2009 in an evolution vs. something thread. Yes monkeyboys come before apemen. I take to myself some of what is old and some of what is new. We share our thoughts. What is your point in saying this? Although thought has it's appearance in physical being my thoughts cannot make you into a pig however as an abstraction you most certainly can be made to appear as a pig you peccary snot! You might ask whether you are wanting abstention or consummation of understanding. Thoughts are not succinctly physical. By succinctly I mean marked by compact precise expression. No need to. I said they are better at making footballs. The learning curve of pigs in being made into footballs is much more brief. I'll be playing ball while you are dealing with your pig head.
Which one?! My 'argument' as you call it, really only an elucidation, is for physicality. But let's take you on your little aside besides. No-one could feel anything without matter to matter over, as you put it. That photons have no measurable rest mass is no reason to suggest they're immaterial. Sorry to shake up your 'solution' you so proudly tote as equal dispersal, but matter has 'universal definition' by virtue of its sheer existence, for which it is also fundamental in physics. lol Skepticism about a non-environment gives me no information about an environment, it's true. But then why would I want it to?! You goddity! Who else could construe knowing nothing non-physical to be self-punishing! lol I must be in mint condition then since you don't follow in mine! lol You seem to want to deny it. Do you want to be pampered with a reciprocation of your deceit? You've picked the wrong company. It doesn't matter what you mean by succinct when you alone don't bear its meaning. Your potential energy is immaterial to the point. As I've said, over your head as has been evidenced three times now, thoughts are so succinctly physical they have you in denial! lol Some may say I shouldn't laugh, but I've never met anyone who can't learn. :-D What a bore you are. They're not better at making footballs. You could perhaps get one to press a button in a football factory a little quicker than Mortimer ( my ball pushing pig ) can reach his goal, but fuck that, I respect him too much to enter him into your stupid contest.
Monkey Boy Yet you say everything comes of it. Space is as physical as it gets. Time, on the other hand, (as though it were somehow separate ) tends to escape our definition, not that it needs to.
Space sees back at someone, though some cannot believe it. How tall is the perceiver of Space. Perceived by Space there is no measure of Height. But the first concept lies; can the second one not lie then?
I asked if you could see me. Problem is your elucidation is not luminary. Knowledge is being shared, your insistence that matter has a universal definition is a definition that matters only to you and does not stand up to peer review. Who would believe that death of the body is a fitting end to you! I have never met your body. Your keeping it makes me none the wiser. It is your light that shines! We fathom the deep together or not at all. What deceit? To speak consistently? It matters what the word succinct means or what the word particular means. That you disregard common definition is the failure of your teaching just as your musical offerings sometimes fall on tin ears. The one's that speak to me are the one's that have ears to hear. Excuse me that you are not titillated but that refers to your facilities not mine. I am a much quicker study than you having been at it longer I am through sorting out whether I am entertained by one thing or another. As to the education of children, I've been at it for thirty six years, you don't know any of your own.
More precisely (without form and void.) That is without form and empty space . Form as I told you before is defined by empty space. Contradicting that everything is physical. Time does not escape our definition, it transcends it.
Space is as far as we can see because it has no boundary. Form is endless. A philosophy has a philosopher and vice versa. I am currently 185 cm tall. thedope: No you didn't. You assured me I couldn't. Perhaps it is not so to you. My 'insistence' is extraneous to the fact. I am not peerless in my observation that matter has universal definition. Are you atomically incorrect? :-D Most of the earths population would. If the shoo fits... You sound like me! lol We only follow in eachothers footsteps so far though... we have our own to lead with after all. Here is a consistent speech: I am my body. It doesn't matter if you're not ready for it. LOL! No, you disregard the common definition. You try, succinctly, to wink your 'special' meaning for succinct out of sight! :-D But out of mind? Let's see: "The mind is succinctly non-physical" you say, yet there it is, spoken for your invokin. You're not through sorting. Here you are still fathoming your way through the pig shit you started. I wouldn't be here having to sick Mortimer onto you if you'd realized pigs don't make balls at all. And as I told you before, there's no perfect vacuum. You're going to have to deal with it. Where're your ears to hear? Time escapes us if we think it transcends us! lol I hereby make a minor change on your behalf, don't think of it as remedial, rather... amenable. :-D I won't however go back and edit it. It's for you and any who like you think the mind transcends its embodiment: Swap 'tends' for 'seems'. Better now? ( Watch this you space watchers! ;-D )
What happens when a tree dies and decomposes, is the trees form intact? The energy is still there but has been transformed. To transform is to change shape. Your recall of events is as sharp as your determinations of what must be, " Can't see me can you" You told me it's as if you have no one. The only atomic corrections I know of are radiation therapy and bombs. As far as I know I have no atomic conflicts, in goes the good air out goes the bad air. I am talking bout peers in the sciences not the pseudo princeling gang members you imagine you are like. You peer out of and into a damned skull and crossed bones, and this is a synthetic view. I have been long at the mainstream of life not claiming exception for myself I did as others do. Marry have a family a craft or occupation and embrace the milestones of creature growth and the fact of creature resolution. I have a different experience and death is something you don't want to acknowledge. It is obvious even in this less than vital venue that it pains you to see your ideas being dissembled in plain view. You just believe your body will not cease to function even though you may struggle to stay with it. Sure if you believe there is more than one life after all. Are you your toenails then? Are you your foot? We've been through this countdown before. You would be you no matter you were to have quadruple limb amputations and were blind and you will still be you when the remainder of your rotting corpse is dissembled. You think somehow you are less you for being transient in form. Are you behaving unlike yourself thinking you have to prove your existence? No that is not consistent speech, you said you were an artist. No not my quote but I will reconsider if some evidence is offered and further disavow any application of the term non-physical. I use terms like abstract or not succinctly not non-physical. Is mortimer some kind of magician or thug life buddy of yours? You cannot uncreate the image of pig skin flying through the uprights. A pig is a pigs body right. Fascinating that by applying himself to durable goodness and sport he continues to play on while his compatriots had long since ceased being able to cart their fat asses around. And as I didn't say there was a perfect vacuum you can suck on it cause ot's just empty air. I said without form and without empty space. To transcend means to go beyond the perception of. Just because you don't taste it with the senses doesn't mean it is not there, i.e. colorless odorless, passed gas. No. Half a change does not suit my being and I am an adult not a minor. You are either all in or you are joking and I'm not going to let any old joker tell me what to think. No. Things in motion tend to stay in motion. Sit and spin.
but doesn't anti space matter? got to get those vacuums moving in the vacuum of space, no?:2thumbsup: