Sorry about locking the thread ... but I'd like to wait till I get all 73 Stanzas in before opening it up for public response/input ... Darrell
[27] Without depending on the defined one cannot establish a definition and without considering the definition one cannot establish the defined....
[26] If you assert a cessation that is different than a functional phenomenon then you are asserting a cessation which does not depend on a...
[25] You have accepted that the extinction of the continuation of suffering is nirvana, in which case you have held an annihilationist view. And...
[24] Opponent: If arising and disintegration do not exist then suffering can not exist, so what cessation will bring forth nirvana? But because...
[23] Opponent: When Buddha explained the path to liberation he spoke about arising and disintegration, so they must have true existence....
[22] Opponent: Because of continuity there is no danger of the two extreme views. Acting as a cause of another causal phenomenon the original...
[21] If a phenomenon were to exist inherently it should be permanent. If a phenomemon were to disintegrate completely then you must accept the...
[20] If there is no arising and enduring, which are functional phenomena, then there can be no disintegration or cessation, which are...
[19] Response: An object cannot simultaneously arise as a functional phenomenon and cease as a non-functional phenomenon. If a non-functional...
[18] Opponent: If phenomena are devoid of inherent existence then they will be completely non-existent like the horns of a rabbit, and so there...
[17] Opponent: If phenomena do not exist inherently, how can you use terms to refer to their own characteristics or their characteristics in...
[16] Response: When you assert that phenomena exist inherently you are asserting that they do not originate in dependence on causes and conditions...
[15] Vaibhisika: If you assert that phenomena don't exist inherently then you are asserting that they don't exist at all. So how can you make...
[14] Just as in a dream, happiness and suffering depend on dream objects and upon awakening these objects are known not to actually exist,...
[13] The father is not the son and the son is not the father. These two are mutually not non-existent and the two of them cannot arise...
[12] By itself none of the twelve limbs can originate inherently, but must depend on the remaining limbs. How then can one limb produce another...
[11] Ignorance cannot originate as a cause except in dependence on the karmic formations. Also, the karmic formations cannot originate except in...
[10] There are no four distortions which exist inherently and thus there can be no ignorance arising from them. Because that ignorance does not...
[9] Because contaminated things arise in dependence on one another they do not exist inherently as permanent phenomena nor do they exist...
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