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#1 boomslang

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Posted September 21 2008 - 06:50 PM

I am prescribed 70mg Vyvanse per day for ADHD and have researched this medication quite a bit. I was at my local Walgreens looking for some magnesium to reduce or at least halt my tolerance to Amphetamies. While looking through the supplement section I came across L-lysine, the enzyme bonded to d-amphetaime in Vyvanse. Could this be used to cleave off the d-amphetamine from the L-lysine molecule in Vyvanse prior to injestion? I am not a chemist so please do not flame me me for being completely wrong.

EDIT: After researching this more it seems that a Protease enzyme is necessary to break apart the two molecules. It can be found at walgreens, called lactaid ;)

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Posted September 21 2008 - 06:58 PM

I don't know anything about chemistry, but I don't see how ingesting L-Lysine can cut off the L-Lysine that bonds to d-amphetamine? Adding more of the same doesn't seem like it would cancel it out, but again I don't know the first thing about chemistry.

I hope someone who has some experience can help, because I am interested in this also, even though I don't particularly care for amphetamines.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 07:11 PM

Hey, check out the edit I made to my first post. It just may work, I am going to try it tonight

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Posted September 21 2008 - 07:33 PM

Just bought some Lactaid supplements and crushed one up and mixed it in lukewarm water with the powder from a 70mg Vyvanse capsule. I will let you know how it works, this may be a simple way to separate the d-amphetamine from the L-lysine, so the d-amphetamine can be absorbed right away. A lot of people are looking for a way to do this, this may be it. We'll see...

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Posted September 21 2008 - 07:41 PM

it's impossible to get the the d-amphetamine by itself prior to ingestion
vyvanse is a prodrug. that's the whole reason for prodrugs. it's inactive prior to ingestion.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 07:45 PM

it's impossible to get the the d-amphetamine by itself prior to ingestion
vyvanse is a prodrug. that's the whole reason for prodrugs. it's inactive prior to ingestion.


What kind of drug is ACTIVE prior to ingestion?

0_o

Obviously it won't be active until you ingest it?

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Posted September 21 2008 - 07:50 PM

What kind of drug is ACTIVE prior to ingestion?

0_o

Obviously it won't be active until you ingest it?


worded wrong. MY BAD.
lisdexampfetamine(vyvanse) isn't active ever.
d-amphetamine is active in ingested form

my point is it's a prodrug.
it's HAS to go through your GI track for the d-amphetamine to be released.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 07:57 PM

worded wrong. MY BAD.
lisdexampfetamine(vyvanse) isn't active ever.
d-amphetamine is active in ingested form

my point is it's a prodrug.
it's HAS to go through your GI track for the d-amphetamine to be released.


So tell me... what is it in the GI tract that allows the release of d-amphetaime.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:02 PM

It is the contact of Vyvanse compounds with Protease Enzymes. They cause the compound of L-lysine and d-amphetaime to separate so that d-amphetaime can pass into the brain cells...

From eveningpsychiatrist.com:

"In the lab they took the dextroamphetamine molecule and stuck it onto a protein molecule. You swallow the capsule with the compound inside and it is absorbed from your intestine into your bloodstream and goes to your brain. However, the amphetamine molecule can’t get into your brain cells to help your concentration because the protein molecule is too big to get through the door into your brain cells. Enzymes in the body cleave the amphetamine from the protein...There is a limited number of these enzymes in your body so they put a ceiling on the rate of entry and the concentration level of amphetamine in your brain cells. Hence, you can’t overdose or abuse the amphetamine to get high concentrations of amphetamine into your brain."

Am I wrong? maybe

Do you really know what you are talking about? :confused:

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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:14 PM

right.
and you have the active amino acid floating around?
you have a pill of l-lysine supplement.
it wont work.
get over it.

Vyvanse has been around for a long enough time that if it could be abused, it would of been.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:18 PM

right.
and you have the active amino acid floating around?
you have a pill of l-lysine supplement.
it wont work.
get over it.

Vyvanse has been around for a long enough time that if it could be abused, it would of been.


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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:22 PM

First of all, it was a legitimate straight-up question asking if you know what you are talking about, and it was not intended to make you look bad in any way - so there is no need for your attitude.

Second, if you hadn't noticed, my original post has an edit to it that was made before you posted, which states that I added a Protease enzyme (Lactaid) into a small amount of water with the powder from a 70mg Vyvanse capsule. This interaction may cause the separation of the L-lysine from the d-amphetaime. This is how it is separated in the intestine... by the Protease enzyme.

Vyvanse can be abused. Physicians know about this. However, it is not well known HOW TO separate the two molecules so it is not abused near as much as Adderall.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:25 PM

The addition of L-lysine to d-amphetaime is a marketing tactic used to get a company another 7 years of a patented ADHD drug. Shire is pushing doctors to prescribe Vyvanse over Adderall.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:30 PM

Right.
They didn't do it because they're phasing out Adderall and making Vyvanse their new Flagshit ADHD product because kids can't smash a pill and suck it up their nose.

=O

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Posted September 21 2008 - 08:37 PM

That was one reason for the creation of Vyvanse, another was for profit. It wasn't just for the prevention of abuse, and they didn't succeed in completely preventing it. There are ways of separating l-lysine from d-amphetamine just as there are ways of binding the two molecules to form a compound, and this thread was created to present a new idea, a new method that may work. It was not created for arguments such as those you have pushed for so far. I am just testing it out. I do not claim to be an MD. If you are going to post comments in my thread please keep them mature.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:17 PM

Just to let you know. If you're really wanting to do this. And I guess you really are for whatever reason.
You can't use l-lysine supplements.
Going into the whole process and just telling you how I would do it seems to defeat the whole purpose for this. And the only purpose I see for this is just chem experience. Getting ~22mg d-amphetamine from 70mg vyvanse is not cost/time effective at all.

But....google using trypsin to separate the compounds.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:21 PM

Just to let you know. If you're really wanting to do this. And I guess you really are for whatever reason.
You can't use l-lysine supplements.
Going into the whole process and just telling you how I would do it seems to defeat the whole purpose for this. And the only purpose I see for this is just chem experience. Getting ~22mg d-amphetamine from 70mg vyvanse is not cost/time effective at all.

But....google using trypsin to separate the compounds.


I'll check out trypsin, thanks )

I was using lactaid (protease enzyme) not l-lysine though

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:22 PM

I just don't understand why people are using pharms for stimulants, I guess. If you are going to, why not just buy adderall or ritalin, something you KNOW can be abused, instead of going through all the trouble with this? I understand you are prescribed to it, but with all the time and money you are spending on this, you could be experimenting with REAL stimulants.

Sometimes I wonder how people who take these kinds of things for a high would react to a REAL stim...

I personally don't like stims, so I might be a little biased, but honestly, just get real stims if you want to get high that much. Use the medication for your ADHD as it was directed...

Unless you are one of the many kids who knows how to fake it to get stims, if so then I really don't even have anything to say to you.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:23 PM

Just to let you know. If you're really wanting to do this. And I guess you really are for whatever reason.
You can't use l-lysine supplements.
Going into the whole process and just telling you how I would do it seems to defeat the whole purpose for this. And the only purpose I see for this is just chem experience. Getting ~22mg d-amphetamine from 70mg vyvanse is not cost/time effective at all.

But....google using trypsin to separate the compounds.


Or just tell your doctor to switch you to adderall or ritalin if you are so desperate to get high.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:43 PM

Or just tell your doctor to switch you to adderall or ritalin if you are so desperate to get high.


Ok, try not to jump to conclusions. I do not use my ADHD medication to get high. I do not know how to make myself more clear to you.

There were many people here interested in separating the two molecules, for example;


You


If you don't remember, you posted this a few hours ago on the first page of my thread:


I don't know anything about chemistry, but I don't see how ingesting L-Lysine can cut off the L-Lysine that bonds to d-amphetamine? Adding more of the same doesn't seem like it would cancel it out, but again I don't know the first thing about chemistry.

I hope someone who has some experience can help, because I am interested in this also, even though I don't particularly care for amphetamines.


I am researching ways to separate the two molecules for a reason. If the d-amphetamine is separated and mixed in water, it can be very accurately measured into different doses of d-amphetaime, which will act more quickly with a shorter duration if not binded with L-lysine. Thus, it can be taken during the early afternoon and still give you the necessary concentration for work and/or school, while also allowing your body to go to sleep at a reasonable time because the duration is much shorter.

When Vyvanse is taken orally, the compound of L-lysine and d-amphetaime is carried in the blood to brain cells, but the molecule d-amphetaime cannot access the brain cells because the L-lysine molecule is too large to pass through. Therefore, if the d-amphetaime is separated prior to injestion, it does not need to pass through the intestines before it can be absorbed as pure d-amphetaime and passed into the brain cells to help manage ADHD symptoms.

From eveningpsychiatrist.com:

"Here’s how it works. In the lab they took the dextroamphetamine molecule and stuck it onto a protein molecule. You swallow the capsule with the compound inside and it is absorbed from your intestine into your bloodstream and goes to your brain. However, the amphetamine molecule can’t get into your brain cells to help your concentration because the protein molecule is too big to get through the door into your brain cells. Enzymes in the body cleave the amphetamine from the protein. I use the following analogy to help my patients understand. The situation is like a waiting line outside a nightclub. The Vyvanse compounds of dextroamphetamine and attached protein molecules are like people with large backpacks that are too big for the small doors into the club. The people need the assistance of the bouncers at the door to help remove their backpacks and grant permission to enter the club. The bouncers activity is similar to the enzyme’s action. They allow the patrons to enter at a regulated rate. The longer the line of patrons, or Vyvanse, the later in the day the last amphetamine enters the brain cells. There is a limited number of these enzymes in your body so they put a ceiling on the rate of entry and the concentration level of amphetamine in your brain cells. Hence, you can’t overdose or abuse the amphetamine to get high concentrations of amphetamine into your brain.

The longer duration action of Vyvanse is also related to this rate limited enzyme action. If we raise the dose of Vyvanse, we lengthen the waiting line of Vyvanse-protein molecules waiting to be cleaved to enter the brain. We can adjust up the dose so that you can have consistent focus from morning to bedtime. We adjust the one time morning dose of Vyvanse in this fashion. Pull the capsule apart and dump the ingredients into a measuring cup of water. Stir the solution and the Vyvanse compound dissolves in the water. Remember that the protein is only cleaved from the amphetamine by enzymes inside the body. After you have calculated the duration of hours that a particular dose of Vyvanse lasts, you drink the amount of solution proportionate to the number of hours you want the Vyvanse concentration to last. If you want it to last longer than your capsule dose, you swallow your capsule plus the measured solution. If you are going to have a short day or forget to take your Vyvanse until later in the day, you just take the proportionate fraction of your dose in solution form. If you find out later in the day one day that you’re going to need to concentrate longer that day than what you had dosed for that morning, you can take an additional partial fraction of a capsule dose at that time. You may then save the remaining aliquot of solution in the refrigerator for ingestion the next day."


Therefore, if I was able to separate the compound PRIOR to injestion (which is what this thread is all about, the SUBJECT of this thread), I would be able to accurately measure a dose of a freely floating d-amphetamine molecule in water. This may be injested with respect to the dose needed with a much quicker onset, as well as a shorter duration, which may be desired over in some situations. Sometimes I may need the 10 hour release for school from AM to early evenings, but sometimes I need a quick action ADHD medication that won't keep me up at night if I take it in the afternoon. Don't jump to conclusions and think that everyone who posts here is looking to get high. That isn't right, it is immature and close-minded.


How is this difficult to comprehend???

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:46 PM

I just don't understand why people are using pharms for stimulants, I guess. If you are going to, why not just buy adderall or ritalin, something you KNOW can be abused, instead of going through all the trouble with this? I understand you are prescribed to it, but with all the time and money you are spending on this, you could be experimenting with REAL stimulants.

Sometimes I wonder how people who take these kinds of things for a high would react to a REAL stim...

I personally don't like stims, so I might be a little biased, but honestly, just get real stims if you want to get high that much. Use the medication for your ADHD as it was directed...

Unless you are one of the many kids who knows how to fake it to get stims, if so then I really don't even have anything to say to you.


Once again, this DOES NOT RELATE to the threads subject so REFRAIN FROM POSTING this type of material or I will have a moderator delete your posts and contact you

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:54 PM

Once again, this DOES NOT RELATE to the threads subject so REFRAIN FROM POSTING this type of material or I will have a moderator delete your posts and contact you


Go ahead....

All I posted was my opinion about what you are doing, and actually gave you suggestions.

Are you that longstanding of a member that you believe you have the power to say which posts that are deleted and who will be warned? Slow down, newbie. You aren't starting off very well.

So please, warn me.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:56 PM

Thus, it can be taken during the early afternoon and still give you the necessary concentration for work and/or school, while also allowing your body to go to sleep at a reasonable time.


I have ADHD too. And am prescribed for it.

You could just talk to your Dr. about getting IR tabs of some sort for that if that's all you're looking for.

Just a thought..

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Posted September 21 2008 - 09:57 PM

Ok, try not to jump to conclusions. I do not use my ADHD medication to get high.

There were many people here interested in separating the two molecules, for example;


You


If you don't remember, you posted this a few hours ago on the first page of my thread:



Yes, I WAS interested, until it was pointed out that this is useless. After that, my interest dropped, sorry you are upset about that.

I have ADHD too. And am prescribed for it.

You could just talk to your Dr. about getting IR tabs of some sort for that if that's all you're looking for.

Just a thought..


Exactly what I was trying to suggest. He isn't giving much of a reason for doing this, other then to get a good high off of his prescription because he can't get another one.

I don't consider this the forum to help you figure out how to get higher off of your non-recreational prescription medication. There are plenty of alternatives out there for that, and I suggested them already. Based on what you are trying to achieve, it seems that you are just trying to get the most out of your non-recreational ADHD medication. Which is why I suggested you look elsewhere.

Just bought some Lactaid supplements and crushed one up and mixed it in lukewarm water with the powder from a 70mg Vyvanse capsule. I will let you know how it works, this may be a simple way to separate the d-amphetamine from the L-lysine, so the d-amphetamine can be absorbed right away. A lot of people are looking for a way to do this, this may be it. We'll see...



So how is it going? Did you get all sorts of fucked up? Wait, you said you don't use it to get high. If you don't use it to get high, what the FUCK is this thead for??

Give me a fucking break.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 10:17 PM

Ok, try not to jump to conclusions. I do not use my ADHD medication to get high. I do not know how to make myself more clear to you.

There were many people here interested in separating the two molecules, for example;


You


If you don't remember, you posted this a few hours ago on the first page of my thread:




I am researching ways to separate the two molecules for a reason. If the d-amphetamine is separated and mixed in water, it can be very accurately measured into different doses of d-amphetaime, which will act more quickly with a shorter duration if not binded with L-lysine. Thus, it can be taken during the early afternoon and still give you the necessary concentration for work and/or school, while also allowing your body to go to sleep at a reasonable time because the duration is much shorter.

When Vyvanse is taken orally, the compound of L-lysine and d-amphetaime is carried in the blood to brain cells, but the molecule d-amphetaime cannot access the brain cells because the L-lysine molecule is too large to pass through. Therefore, if the d-amphetaime is separated prior to injestion, it does not need to pass through the intestines before it can be absorbed as pure d-amphetaime and passed into the brain cells to help manage ADHD symptoms.

From eveningpsychiatrist.com:

"Here’s how it works. In the lab they took the dextroamphetamine molecule and stuck it onto a protein molecule. You swallow the capsule with the compound inside and it is absorbed from your intestine into your bloodstream and goes to your brain. However, the amphetamine molecule can’t get into your brain cells to help your concentration because the protein molecule is too big to get through the door into your brain cells. Enzymes in the body cleave the amphetamine from the protein. I use the following analogy to help my patients understand. The situation is like a waiting line outside a nightclub. The Vyvanse compounds of dextroamphetamine and attached protein molecules are like people with large backpacks that are too big for the small doors into the club. The people need the assistance of the bouncers at the door to help remove their backpacks and grant permission to enter the club. The bouncers activity is similar to the enzyme’s action. They allow the patrons to enter at a regulated rate. The longer the line of patrons, or Vyvanse, the later in the day the last amphetamine enters the brain cells. There is a limited number of these enzymes in your body so they put a ceiling on the rate of entry and the concentration level of amphetamine in your brain cells. Hence, you can’t overdose or abuse the amphetamine to get high concentrations of amphetamine into your brain.

The longer duration action of Vyvanse is also related to this rate limited enzyme action. If we raise the dose of Vyvanse, we lengthen the waiting line of Vyvanse-protein molecules waiting to be cleaved to enter the brain. We can adjust up the dose so that you can have consistent focus from morning to bedtime. We adjust the one time morning dose of Vyvanse in this fashion. Pull the capsule apart and dump the ingredients into a measuring cup of water. Stir the solution and the Vyvanse compound dissolves in the water. Remember that the protein is only cleaved from the amphetamine by enzymes inside the body. After you have calculated the duration of hours that a particular dose of Vyvanse lasts, you drink the amount of solution proportionate to the number of hours you want the Vyvanse concentration to last. If you want it to last longer than your capsule dose, you swallow your capsule plus the measured solution. If you are going to have a short day or forget to take your Vyvanse until later in the day, you just take the proportionate fraction of your dose in solution form. If you find out later in the day one day that you’re going to need to concentrate longer that day than what you had dosed for that morning, you can take an additional partial fraction of a capsule dose at that time. You may then save the remaining aliquot of solution in the refrigerator for ingestion the next day."


Therefore, if I was able to separate the compound PRIOR to injestion (which is what this thread is all about, the SUBJECT of this thread), I would be able to accurately measure a dose of a freely floating d-amphetamine molecule in water. This may be injested with respect to the dose needed with a much quicker onset, as well as a shorter duration, which may be desired over in some situations. Sometimes I may need the 10 hour release for school from AM to early evenings, but sometimes I need a quick action ADHD medication that won't keep me up at night if I take it in the afternoon. Don't jump to conclusions and think that everyone who posts here is looking to get high. That isn't right, it is immature and close-minded.


How is this difficult to comprehend???


I said I wasn't a chemist, just like you stated, which is why I asked the question you did. You are blatantly lying, and acting as if you aren't trying to use your ADHD medication to get high, yet you post a thread on how to make the amp hit you alone to make it stronger. Someone already posted that there are other meds that can do this for you, and you didn't acknowledge that at all, instead, you keep going on about how to make the best of your drug.

Vyvanse can be abused. Physicians know about this. However, it is not well known HOW TO separate the two molecules so it is not abused near as much as Adderall.


Quit acting as if you aren't trying to abuse it, and just admit it so we can get on with the thread.

Just give it a rest, I don't wish to continue to argue with you. Try and warn me if you must, for suggesting that you try another drug instead of going through all this trouble "to help with the duration and timing." LOL

You have basically answered all your questions from another website, so there is no reason for this to be open, so I will suggest this thread be closed.

EDIT: Thread reported, we can only hope it will be closed before he comes back hellbent all fucked up on amp and cusses us out for not helping him, haha.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 10:31 PM

Yes, I WAS interested, until it was pointed out that this is useless. After that, my interest dropped, sorry you are upset about that.



Exactly what I was trying to suggest. He isn't giving much of a reason for doing this, other then to get a good high off of his prescription because he can't get another one.

I don't consider this the forum to help you figure out how to get higher off of your non-recreational prescription medication. There are plenty of alternatives out there for that, and I suggested them already. Based on what you are trying to achieve, it seems that you are just trying to get the most out of your non-recreational ADHD medication. Which is why I suggested you look elsewhere.



So how is it going? Did you get all sorts of fucked up? Wait, you said you don't use it to get high. If you don't use it to get high, what the FUCK is this thead for??

Give me a fucking break.


Go back to page 2 and scroll down to my last post. I finished it before I even looked at this 3rd page and it will answer your (and the other fellow who posted) on-going question.

I do not know how to be more clear about this.

1. Please do not post here anymore, you are not contributing to the subject of the thread. Start your own if you wish to comment like this, or, if you intend to keep pressing that I am a junkie, do so by messaging me so I can delete them. There is also no need for immature language, like that found your last post. If you still feel the need to pick a fight do so somewhere else.
2. I used the Protease enzyme (Lactaid) to separate the compound in water, not L-lysine.
3. I do not use d-amphetamine to get "high"
4. I have severe enough ADHD symptoms that they impact my schoolwork in a negative way. I do not self-medicated with pills purchased from the black market.
5.I have already sent an email asking my doctor to switch me to Adderall XR to try for a month, and to compare to Vyvanse's effect on me.
6. I am very impressed that you have so many posts, it definitely gives you the right to constantly deviate my thread from it's original topic. It also gives you the privilege to insult me and repeatedly clarify to me that I am a junkie... thanks. I'll just ask a moderator to intervene and if he feels that I am doing wrong then he may delete my thread.


Maybe this will clarify my intentions enough for you to leave:

(Taken from page 2, bottom post)

Therefore, if I was able to separate the compound PRIOR to injestion (which is what this thread is all about, the SUBJECT of this thread), I would be able to accurately measure a dose of a freely floating d-amphetamine molecule in water. This may be injested with respect to the dose needed with a much quicker onset, as well as a shorter duration, which may be desired over in some situations. Sometimes I may need the 10 hour release for school from AM to early evenings, but sometimes I need a quick action ADHD medication that won't keep me up at night if I take it in the afternoon. Don't jump to conclusions and think that everyone who posts here is looking to get high. That isn't right, it is immature and close-minded.

How is this difficult to comprehend???



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Posted September 21 2008 - 10:41 PM

Go back to page 2 and scroll down to my last post. I finished it before I even looked at this 3rd page and it will answer your (and the other fellow who posted) on-going question.

I do not know how to be more clear about this.

1. Please do not post here anymore, you are not contributing to the subject of the thread. Start your own if you wish to comment like this, or, if you intend to keep pressing that I am a junkie, do so by messaging me so I can delete them. There is also no need for immature language, like that found your last post. If you still feel the need to pick a fight do so somewhere else.
2. I used the Protease enzyme (Lactaid) to separate the compound in water, not L-lysine.
3. I do not use d-amphetamine to get "high"
4. I have severe enough ADHD symptoms that they impact my schoolwork in a negative way. I do not self-medicated with pills purchased from the black market.
5.I have already sent an email asking my doctor to switch me to Adderall XR to try for a month, and to compare to Vyvanse's effect on me.
6. I am very impressed that you have so many posts, it definitely gives you the right to constantly deviate my thread from it's original topic. It also gives you the privilege to insult me and repeatedly clarify to me that I am a junkie... thanks. I'll just ask a moderator to intervene and if he feels that I am doing wrong then he may delete my thread.


Maybe this will clarify my intentions enough for you to leave:

(Taken from page 2, bottom post)


You email your doctor to request a change of medication?

:rolleyes:

I am not going to leave your thread just because I have an opinion on it, sorry.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 10:49 PM

Someone already posted that there are other meds that can do this for you, and you didn't acknowledge that at all, instead, you keep going on about how to make the best of your drug.


I am prescribed Vyvanse, not Adderall, not Concerta, not Focalin... VYVANSE. I am not about to go out and find someone to buy Adderall IR from. If I need a medication with a quick onset and a shorter duration, and if I can find it from the medication I am already prescribed, I will - just as I am doing now. I am trying to find a way for my medication to be more effective in specific situations of my life. Is it wrong to go on about how to make the best of my medication? ...Which is PRESCRIBED for me?? I acknowledged other medications on my own and have already emailed my doctor with a specific question, asking him if he could prescribe me something with a quicker onset and shorter duration for the afternoons.

EDIT: Thread reported, we can only hope it will be closed before he comes back hellbent all fucked up on amp and cusses us out for not helping him, haha.


Don't get all high and mighty, you don't speak for everyone in this forum. I guess it is pointless to say that I have already sent a message to a moderator to take a look at your posts and decide for themselves who is out of line. Try to really think hard about how you have acted through your words. You have completely ruined my thread, cursed at me, insulted me, and made incorrect judgments about my intentions. I have made it clear to you, early on in the thread, and in my original post, that this thread is to remain within the subject matter and is to be discussed maturely. You have been very juvenile in your actions. I sincerely hope that you are under 16 years old, otherwise you are very immature for your age and should consider that the words you say have a serious impact on the world. They are not to be taken lightly and you have chosen some pretty harsh words in your comments. They are unnecessary and uncalled for.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 10:50 PM

I am not going to leave your thread just because I have an opinion on it, sorry.


You are not mature enough to be posting on this thread, let alone this forum. Your language has demonstrated this.

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Posted September 21 2008 - 10:52 PM

I am prescribed Vyvanse, not Adderall, not Concerta, not Focalin... VYVANSE. I am not about to go out and find someone to buy Adderall IR from. If I need a medication with a quick onset and a shorter duration, and if I can find it from the medication I am already prescribed, I will - just as I am doing now. I am trying to find a way for my medication to be more effective in specific situations of my life. Is it wrong to go on about how to make the best of my medication? ...Which is PRESCRIBED for me?? I acknowledged other medications on my own by emailed my doctor with a specific question, asking him if he could prescribe me something with a quicker onset and shorter duration for the afternoons.




I guess it is pointless to say that I have already sent a message to a moderator to take a look at your posts and decide for themselves who is out of line. Try to really think hard about how you have acted through your words. You have completely ruined my thread, cursed at me, insulted me, and made incorrect judgments about my intentions. I have made it clear to you, early on in the thread, and in my original post, that this thread is to remain within the subject matter and is to be discussed maturely. You have been very juvenile in your actions. I sincerely hope that you are under 16 years old, otherwise you are very immature for your age and should consider that the words you say have a serious impact on the world. They are not to be taken lightly and you have chosen some pretty harsh words in your comments. They are unnecessary and uncalled for.


Thus, it can be taken during the early afternoon and still give you the necessary concentration for work and/or school, while also allowing your body to go to sleep at a reasonable time because the duration is much shorter.


Hey, check out the edit I made to my first post. It just may work, I am going to try it tonight


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Anyways, if a mod thinks I am out of line, I will accept that. I think this thread is out of line, and absolutely ridiculous. Again, I don't care what you think about MY opinions.

You are not mature enough to be posting on this thread, let alone this forum. Your language has demonstrated this.



Yes, since language demonstrates age. It was a good attempt at an attack, but sorry.

I have helped countless people in the month that I have been here, I don't need to "prove" to you anything. I really applaud you at your attempt at a meaningful flame though.




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