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#1 Bud D

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Posted July 23 2016 - 02:37 PM

Is time just the rate in which things move? Is there a way to validate that time exists without anything moving or movement being measured?

Gravity slows down time as does moving faster. But if there was no movement of any particle would there still be time? Perhaps time is just a theory. A perspective to measure the rates of movement into a communicable idea.

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Posted July 23 2016 - 02:40 PM

Time is the dimension in which entropy always increases.  I think I read that in A Brief History Of Time by Stephen Hawking.


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Posted July 23 2016 - 02:47 PM

That's the human perspective that things get more chaotic, with our attention span. How is time a dimension in not a figurative manner?

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Posted July 23 2016 - 03:00 PM

Well, my limited understanding is that it takes four dimensions to "locate" an event: 3 dimensions to place it in space and one dimension to tell when it occurs.  Every event has a unique set of coordinates in "space-time".  I'm not a rocket scientist however, I just understand this stuff the best I can.


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Posted July 23 2016 - 03:12 PM

So time is a locating principle?

I read wiki entry for time and it's hard to think of it as a substance anymore.

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Posted July 24 2016 - 02:21 PM

 But if there was no movement of any particle would there still be time? 

Not only would there be no time without movement, there would be no particles. There wouldn't even be space for a particle. Nothing would exist without time, not just "nothingness" but absolute NOTHING. Space-time isn't just a fun thing to call space and time. They are bound, it actually should be called space-time-energy, they are all aspects of the same thing. To be even more descriptive maybe, space-time-energy-magnetism-gravity. They are all aspects and properties the same thing, the fabric of space. A particle is really an electromagnetic field. It is literally a moving field of spatial flux. None of these properties can exist without the other.



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Posted July 24 2016 - 02:49 PM

Time is something developed to control humans when the sun passes by, to make all women be quiet for a few hours, to let everything have a rest, and to stop people bumping into things in the dark!

That's what my grandfather told me as a child, and it still makes sense! :)
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Posted July 24 2016 - 05:11 PM

John Wheeler famously said, "Time is what prevents everything from happening at once!" Among other things this is a reference to the fact Relativity describes time as possibly being an illusion. Time is the complimentary-opposite of space because a context without any content is a contradiction and the two will transform into one another in extreme contexts. You can't have a perfect vacuum or achieve absolute zero temperature because nature forbids metaphysical extremes such as a context without any content and vice versa. For us to perceive an object as filling space we must also see it as changing in some respect reflecting how the greater context inevitably determines its own content and the line between what is context and content can become blurry. The real question is what is not space and what is not time because the identities of the two becoming conflated makes their flow dynamics or bandwidth more important than their individual identities. A black hole is a good example because, without a surface, its identity is so humble it can only be defined according to its behaviour in different contexts. Whether you choose to call it a cold rock slowly evaporating under its own weight or a hole in space sucking everything up simply depends upon the context.


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Posted July 26 2016 - 09:14 AM

If there was always some sort of activity, then the activity is that time among other immeasureable things, and that time is eternal. This is if time is defined as some sort of motion (which should include all the synanyms (sp?)).

I dont buy that co-existence popped into being. I rather buy that co-existence (which is infinite to include being co-time) is always, and co-existence is supernatural (another thing apart of infinite) to have made this universe, which keeps the reality of what and whom in all that co-existence not accessible from certain of who in all has to be also them, but with just limits so that they don't know yet till the revealing of some kind.

Ask yourselves this: are infinite beings infinite activities, if they didnt just pop into existing?

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Posted July 26 2016 - 09:18 AM

lol...I don't know...but this dramatic song pops into my head......so the lol right now....


ok, one more try. to get the song I want here....my mouse must have lots of things in its memory...


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