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#11 unfocusedanakin


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Posted July 15 2012 - 03:40 PM

Well unless you learn a trade, you sort of have to play their game unless you would like to make $9 an hour forever.

Your HR department will treat you like shit without a degree because from their perspective you are not worth an investment of the company's resources. You are easy to replace and it's likely you are lazy and unmotivated because you did not go to school. They also consider you to be much more likely to be arrested or cause trouble. They will not admit this to you (for fear of being sued), but spend some time in HR and you'll see how they really look at you. But to do that you would need a degree in an appropriate field to begin with.

I did and I promise you, they think your worthless. And it is HR that decides who to interview and how they will do it.

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Posted July 29 2012 - 08:49 AM

i didn't take many classes in the business spectrum, but i would assume those professors would overall be about the least liberal on the faculty.

I am a business school major and you are right. In this field, the professors mostly believe in doing thins by the book and not rocking the boat. Although a few of my best professors (particularly one in the marketing dept.) challenged us to think differently and screw convention. I think it depends on the school a bit as well.

But to the OP, no, you do not NEED a college education to be successful (Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc.) but you will gain alot more from said education than you may be aware of. Like a few others have said, college is what you make of it. You can learn from reading a book at home sure, but you have the chance in a university to inhale some wisdom from those around you that you might be able to put to good use later in life.


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Posted July 29 2012 - 09:00 AM

I'm going back to do a Masters in a couple of months. For me, it wasn't a waste of time. It depends on what you want to do with your life.

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Posted July 29 2012 - 09:07 AM

It is a waste of time if you can't conform to the purpose.

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Posted July 29 2012 - 09:35 AM

I think the system suffers from academic inbreeding however, you can't really waist time but you can use it unwisely.

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Posted July 29 2012 - 10:15 AM

Contrary to the overall tenor of anti-intellectualism in this thread, I find academia to be an exceedingly gratifying and rewarding experience and the only place where I've experienced what I can only describe as unfettered intellectual freedom.

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Posted July 29 2012 - 05:45 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one that appreciates a good college education.


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Posted August 24 2012 - 07:17 AM

It depends what you want out of it... I decided to take the course because it was a chance to study a subject that I love, and it was worth the loans that will take years to pay back, just for the confidence it gave me after years being treated like crap in a low-paid job. I would say if you feel passionately about the subject or have a specific career goal in mind, then it would be a good decision; if you are only going into it because you think you should then you may not get so much out of it.

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Posted August 24 2012 - 07:52 AM

It is a piece of paper that states I can regurgitate all the stuff you put in my head and spit it out in what I believe are my own words but only in the way you tell me I can write!
It also tells a future employer I can turn up most days and do what is expected of me...

I doubt I will ever do it, but one day when I am a grown up I might give it a go to see if I can join the masses and believe I might have a better chance of a job in this over populated world..

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Posted August 24 2012 - 10:58 AM

Got your attention, did I? Yes, university is a waste of time if you want to be drilled to take tests and fit a mold... also the student loans aren't fun to pay back; and, most students don't deserve to be in college- I knew more intelligent people who did not go to college or university but got jobs and made something of themselves.

What road did I take? University. What road do I regret? You betcha!

Please do not bash me for saying university is a waste of time. I got wonderful grades and had a decent amount of friends when I was on campus; it just does not prepare you for the real world!

Does anyone else feel the same way? Given that I cannot even get a volunteer job because I have a M/A in this economy, I deserve to feel a little upset. I see mentally handicapped people with jobs and I am told I am overqualified? Geez. I suppose that is why our country is in the toilet.

From someone who has been down the higher education road, spend your time dedicating yourself to a field or company you can grow with and learn the trade. If you enjoy cooking, fixing cars, or chilling with people learn the vocation and become the best chef, mechanic, or counselor the world has ever seen. This goes for anything else that cannot be outsourced! Vocational training is the way to go. Don't spend your time with a four-year university or more. Get a real job. I wish someone would have told me this 10 years a go!

Years ago I was told, " Don't go to college to get a degree so you can get a job. Go and get a degree so when you'll be able to create a job". I ended up in the military instead, but I still think it was great advice.

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