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#11 Vernadead



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Posted November 04 2010 - 02:28 PM

rofl.... yeah no tobacco...maybe more leniant on alcohol.

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Posted November 04 2010 - 02:29 PM

I don't expect it to come true, it's just interesting to think about.

I know what you're saying, but I know any possiblity I come up with, could be picked apart by me on another day =P

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#13 idioticnumbskull



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Posted November 04 2010 - 04:43 PM

Physicality- I would make genetic engeering be at the forefront of the sciences. It will ascend into a fantasical almost surreal point. The people would be like the x-men. Powers and wonderous features fit for the gods of a celestial and angelic realm. People would not be allowed to design their children though. They would be given special features, but not to the point of designing the look of their face and body. They would have armour like skin, incredible vision and hearing. They would be able to shoot lasers out of their eyes for hunting and protection. As lasers would drain the person of energy and leave their metabolism beyond the point of feeding, they would carry around an energy pack. A cyborginized people, with chamelion mimicking sensors woven into the frame work of the skin to create a hollographic invisibility. People would be able to gentically engineer the weirdest pets which would also serve as protectors.

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Posted November 05 2010 - 08:15 AM

Remember I'm talking about building a civilization from the ground up. Not necessarily trying to fix this one.

Well then I’d like to go back to basics :2thumbsup:

Education: How to kill with a spear and atlatl
Infrastructure: Caves and roads leading to ceremonial platforms and sacrificial altars.
Family Unit: Shared responsibility for upbringing and nurturing of children
Sexuality: Club her over the head then rape her while she’s unconscious
Technology: The wheel, fire starting, stone weaponry
Culture: wrestling, primitive form of soccer (males, only)
Physicality: Lean, muscular, and sinewy
Food/intoxicants: wild animals, fish, roots and tubers
Hierarchy: Chiefdom

Never! This is outrageous. I'm through with it. I'll have no more of this hell-spawn!

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Posted November 09 2010 - 03:32 PM

to me, the optimum civilization, really civilization at all, in any positive sense and as i think of it, is the complete abscence of the tyranny of the dominance of aggressiveness. complete security from aggressiveness ever being able to become dominant.

abundant public transportation and an energy grid harmonious with nature are the dominant tangible elements.

nothing lasts very long without a culture that builds and favors it.

too many people would rather be tortured to death then live in a world that didn't give them something to complain about.

i think when people understand the real process of gratification, instead of throwing it away for the sake of hallow persuits that are tremendously popular but seldom gratify, or for long, if at all, then civilization will appear.

its not beyond our actual capacity to do so. and i'm not talking about ascitacism, but simple self honesty.

we have the means, what we lack is the focus and the will, and that's not an intrinsic lack, but a result of the coerciveness of short sighted interests.

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this is the dawning of the age of zootopia

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Posted November 09 2010 - 04:55 PM

I've stopped adding the rest. I'm wondering if no civilization at all would be preferable to any type of society.

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Posted November 10 2010 - 12:24 AM

All production is democratically managed and owned by everyone who has a stake in it, technology is utilized to benefit society and is at harmony with nature, people live for experience and not material accumulation, free exchange of information, no poverty, direct democracy, no authority, self government, horizontal social organization, etc etc.

education- something democratic in nature that teaches children to critically think, like the Deweyist method.
infrastructure- homes are extensive structures shared by clans and communities, political entities don't exist or only serve as organizational structures for direct democracy/the city functions an autonomous collective/What would normally be suburban would be reserved for farm land, community centers for higher learning and spiritual development, sustainable density, no managing, just rational people that know how to make collective decisions and to decrease population growth voluntarily if needed.
family unit- life long, committed group relationships/ the family unit extends to a localized, clan sized segment of community/ the family and community is one in the same/ Children are the collective responsibility of all males within committed orgiastic relationship.
sexuality- free love/ orgiastic relationships within committed clan sized units.
technology- It would be futuristic and environmentally sound.
culture- People would, both, think for their selves and be open minded, people spend their spare time through spiritual and naturalistic exploration, social get together's would involve open interaction and exchange of ideas.
Physicality- Well fed, happy people/ ideally cybernetics could enable people to merge consciousness temporarily to understand one another better and for democratic organizing. The next stage in evolution would be an interstellar culture and development of a higher state of consciousness that spans more dimensions of space-time.
Food/intoxicants- localized farming to to save on fossil fuels and counter current trend of corporate monopoly, non-harmful to sentient life/ psychedelic drugs (no ego enhancing or addictive substances like cocaine and methamphetamine). Cannabis will grow everywhere in abundance in the wild as a free source of medicine, clothing, and food.

Hierarchy- Anarchistic, money doesn't exist (through a more evolved sense of the collective unconscious, people will be able to ascertain how much one contributes to society), chiefs and elders are respected for their age and wisdom. horizontal organization.

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Posted November 10 2010 - 01:28 AM

Interesting topic

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Posted November 12 2010 - 01:22 PM

Thanks for the reply, merging consciousness is an interesting idea.

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Posted November 14 2010 - 11:51 PM

I would love a world where nudity is the singular norm,but total nudity,including bare feet,but with the abscense of pornography.Money in the form of credits,and whealth is universal, where everyone has a house.TECHNOLOGY- must be advanced, e.g. ,dna screning via the soles of your feet,and screening sole prints as identity,and in males spermatic DNA EVALUATIONS,and in females,ovarion genetic typing,where (by spermatic/ovarion scanning/typing) potential criminals,molesters and rapists be identified and then withdrawn at birth from society.The EDUCATION system must be compulcery for all ages,and genetic grouping done into carreers,and university is accessable and compulsary for every learner. To facilitate and assure maximum innoscense and youth,kids and teens must attend school naked,and at least have 8 hours outside time which involves sport and playtime, and young adults from the age of 16 have inplants that will prevent molestation and sexual abuse.Physical hands on and practical sex education where the pupils must demomstsate their competencies,and be evaluated on their sexual skills,to ensure healthy mariages.Science subjects compulsary.Abuse against animals punished to the exact punishments of human abuse.There will be no wars.because of a common peace and awareness in/of unity among al nations. SEXUALITY- could be practiced and should be encouraged , publically, ( oral sex and mutual masturbation,for single adults and engaged couples only.-Masturbation only for children and teens ) without guilt,and viewed in the same light and leisure time activity as playing baseball or football in the park,and as acceptable as eating a candy bar or drinking a coke in public,but without the acts of unconscented rape,forced molestation or abuse.Penetration is reserved only for mariage,and premarital penetration punished by castration,or eternal wedlock without divorce.Should molestation take place,punishment is either castration of penis and testicles,or death...PETTING/TOUCHING BY OTHERS,may only be by mutual consent,or in ritualistic/religious ceremonies with consent.Sexual maturity and developement in children must be publically celebrated and rewarded (by recieving a piece of ground for the day the child gets married,or as a dowry),i.e. The boy's first ejaculation,and the girls first menstration cycle(demonstrated publically). SEXUAL BRAIN Scanning must be done regulary on kids from age 10 ,evaluating their levels of lust,and then either be defused/released/innitiated via computors,or councelors to faccilitate oppertunities and facilities to release sexual energy,e.g masturbation cells,twice weekly sperm bank deposites as a service to the comunity.In the case of male children that ejaculate,they should have sperm depositories where parents that cannot have children due to male infirtility may be given oppertunity to have kids,as well as single adults,or widdowed people.Young teen boys should have automated sperm harvesters,in case they have wet dreams,so the sperm could be harvested.Mariage must be consumated publically as an act of commitmant and loyalty and respect,as well as a symbol of oath/covenant for the male,never to abuse his wife,and future chldren,and if he does,he is punished by death or castration. ENVIRONMENT-There will be no plastic,or non-biodegradable "stuff" Everything will be recycleble!FOOD must be organic,ballanced,and no junk food outlets.Communication is face to face,internet does not exist,education is globally standardized.rain forests abundant,and all extinct plant and animal spieces restored,and every zoo abbolished.Due to the nudity,and barefooting,there will be no rubber or artificial material pollution,no oil ussage,due to a constant temp of 26 deg celcius,clothes would be unnesecarry,barefooting would be practical,due to the open sexuality,there is no shame,due to the univerral love,no wars,the constant temrature,everythìng is solar and hydro powered,cleaner air,the abscance of internet.a better society,communication is telepathy due to our common peace...ecconmy and education is stardardized and poverty and starvation illimenated...and the healthy lifestyle,heart disease and tb is destroyed,and due to the education,HIV/AIDS Is illimenated.... .this is my utopian world...