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#21 polecat



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Posted October 11 2008 - 07:58 AM

if you are willing to have a sane and rational conversation and as open to listening to the view of a former starbucks employee as i am to listening to a former employee of "the competition," then i would very much like to converse upon the matter at hand.:cheers2:

I'll get back to you. Not today though.
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Posted October 13 2008 - 08:19 AM

Dont ever try to run game on a true coffee freak.
It IS NOT THE SAME CUP everywhere you go.
Wish I had a tannin (sp?) meter and a PH probe to show you.
This was the original push : "consistency is a componenet of quality" but it CHANGED!
Once you find the line; it makes no business sense to cross it too far.
They have some good premium fruit for a price. I prefered La Costa Roasters here in San Diego or even Pete's, but even their quality became effected by Starbucks proliferation. or so it seemed.
You can run all the logic you want by us. The true freaks like myself who drink their juice black and unadulterated know it changed....or we just had a mass shift in out taste buds at the same time.

First thing to do would be to qualify our subjective opinions about this with a "how do you take your coffee" poll. You will probably find less than 8% (thats my guess) take it w/o any adultereant. I would have to thow a confound flag if we are establishing consistency of taste by people who change or alter coffee's purist form.

btw. i suspect coffee is easlily burned by excessive heat at any stage of the process. Often the coffee I get is too hot and tastes burnt (not a roasting issue). Kinda of like old Yerba Mate practice of determinig when the water is at the right temp.

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Posted November 08 2008 - 07:12 AM

well, i fucking love coffee...

...you can find specialty places where they charge far more for their coffees and they may be equal quality, lesser quality, or greater quality.'...

italian blend and french roast are nasty, and remind me of stale cigarette butts. they are very low in acidity and very strong and dark, though, and do have a devoted following.

if you want something so sweet you cant taste the coffee, you can go to dunkin donuts or tim hortons and pray they give you something drinkable. its very hit and miss. with starbucks you pay a little extra, but the money doesnt simply go into the pockets of the higher up executives, it goes also to the farmers (both coffee and dairy), the truckers, the employees, and their spouses or partners. you also get a more consistant product, and while some markets are better about it than others, if you have a problem with a drink and tell them -they'll remake it for you!- good luck getting that at dunkin donuts...or worse yet mcdonalds. legendary service and knowledge of the product is what got starbucks where it is today - not advertising and making one or two people wildly rich while screwing over the "lackeys"

so i wont tell you that starbucks is or isnt worth the money, but you have to understand that the money you pay goes to far more good than if you get a coffee at dunkin donuts, the quality is more consistant, and in general the service is far better as well.

man i love coffee. i really do. i like Maxim's coffee, every now and then i go and buy bulk loads of it duty-free at the airport, but don't get on a plane :D just buy the goods and leave.
but, starbucks if very good IMO.
i normally go for macchiatos (sp?), or plain espressos, every now and then an ice latte, or chai tea latte, but i like them for themselves. however, when at home, i drink coffee (if its not Maxim's arabica) from a frequently-visiting farmer's market in the other town, and i get some really nice colombian stuff, dark roasted and very rich. I'm not an expert on coffees, but i know what i like. STRONG.
if i'm at work, or at a family members house, and they offer me coffee, they end up bringing me Nescafe freeze-dried crap and i, of course, always say i take it black, and i find it just tastes like (what in britain is known as) Fairy Liquid. i think that's why people describe some coffee as tasting "bleached". it's really nasty and not worth the money.

however, if pushed, there IS one coffee (called Cafe Parisien) by nescafe which i can tolerate if it's 4am, i have to go to work, and there's no espresso powder left for the machine.

as for the french roasts tasting like stale cigarette butts ... i like cigarettes. i like french coffee lol :p

i am currently drinking some Bellaroma arabica in a cafetiere, and it's alright. not the best, but its alright.

what are you guys drinking?

sorry that was so long. i got carried away rambling nonsense
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Posted November 08 2008 - 07:40 AM

Nesta knows his shit about coffee..

I love espresso every morning I make Hawaiian or Colombian espresso in a stovetop Italian espresso maker. Yeah so fucking good…

Sometimes I get board and buy a pound of African or Latin American coffee but I like Hawaiian or Colombian the best.

Once in a while I get a double shot of espresso from starbucks I go to non-franchised place before chain store but sometimes when your roaming around suburban sprawl starbucks is it.

I don’t mind starbucks, the employees usually all seem nice and they are usually kicked back places you can read some magazines or chill out for a few.

A lot of the small coffee shops where I live suck they are small stuffy and the employees act like you should tip them big money. They hand you change next to the tip jar and look at it like you should put all your money in it. WTF? You poured me a coffee it took 60 seconds and now you want 3 dollars extra? Fuck you.

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Posted November 08 2008 - 07:41 AM

starbucks stuff is good, pretty pricey though.

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Posted November 20 2008 - 07:43 AM

Consider adding flavored syrups or liqueurs to the selection such as Irish cream and Kahlua, or chocolate mint sticks as stirrers.

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Posted November 22 2008 - 05:52 PM

i worked in an independent coffee shop for five years. we purchased from 5 different roasters in the united states (and carried and brewed over 200 different types of coffee). i've tried a lot. i love coffee and i'm very passionate about it. i do not prefer starbucks. i would NEVER buy espresso from starbucks. i will occasionally buy a cup of coffee when travelling. in my opinion, reliable coffee, a small family roastery in louisiana (survived katrina!) does really great work. my favorite coffee EVER is their organic costa rican. it's so good! i sold A LOT of it in our store. they also have an espresso mia that is very good. it's lighter than traditional espresso, but i love it. just my opinion. i don't believe any of starbucks p.r. and i'm not impressed about how much they pay farmers. ahh...mcbucks.
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Posted November 22 2008 - 06:06 PM

I call it my "cup of motivation"....I never tried Starbucks...only Tim Hortons

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Posted November 22 2008 - 07:13 PM

i like any coffee starbucks and other places like that naturally are they are for those that have the money . i was brought up a truckers daughter so yah cofffee is life blood to me most days . i perfure to make my own , but i miss the coffee from truckstops in the midwest like Spedway Starvn' Marvin, that chain of stations and other gas stops . not to mechion dinner coffee. but hay if anything else i think instent is over rated

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Posted December 05 2008 - 11:49 AM

Place an oven mitt over the grinder before turning it on

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