You Should Support America and the War!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Rugor, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. Rugor

    Rugor Senior Member

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    As I have seen many times. Many people hate on America saying it's a global control. Many people Say that the war is pointless.

    well guess what

    This is not the olden days anymore. Technology is very advanced.

    In this day in age technology can threaten our very existence very easily. An evil group bent on world domination could easily take over and start mass slaying, mass slavery, mass destruction. Guess who prevents these evil groups from ever achieving their goal? AMERICA!!! We have a very organized military and intelligence agency. Without that to keep things is order the world would be chaos.

    It's impossible to have a peaceful, loving, non-sinning, perfect world. Also with technology in existence America and the system has to be run the way it is. Trust me you may say blah blah it's not free. But be thankful for what you have because it could be way worse. It's run this way to keep us safe. and hey if not like you have to conform to anything. you can be a bum or live in a commune or the woods if you want. it may not be socially acceptable but you can.

    If there was no government and it was anarchy. Quickly some group of evil people would group up try to mess with everyone else. Then the good people would either have to listen to them or make a rebel group themselves and fight the evil people. and guess what????? your at war!!!!!! you can't stop it no matter what. you can spread love and peace and stand apart from others but the hole is already really deep!

    back in the day things were different. you could travel west and have endless open land to yourself. no technology no easy invasions. now days most people enjoy technology. there is no going back. Sooo in order to be safe in this day and age you need a GOOD world order and system to keep things safe and FREE.

    These secret agencies know things we don't. They use technology to keep watch of terrorist activity. Terrorist are people who are bent on world control. They wanna take over and set the rules. Who do you trust? America or some random terrorist group ? there is stuff they can't say because they gotta keep what they do low key.


    Think about world war 2 and what hitler did? That could happen again today. but America will stop it.

    America has been running fine so far. Till it America falls enjoy it. I think the only way America will fail is from inside corruption.

    There is not such thing as hey let's all live peacefully. Even the indians who lived off the land back in the day fought each different tribe. this tribe invaded that tribe. If that tribe took you over they could do whatever the hell they want to you because your captured.

    So I think currently America is a great place to live. Your pretty darn safe. In a lot of other countries the government kill people that say screw the government. here you have freedom of speech.

    With the current populations rates and technology be real with yourself before saying stupid stuff. Appreciate what you have. Just look at AFRICA. theres places there that are anarchy. you know what goes on there. these evil terrorist gun groups drive up to peaceful villagers/farmers and enslave them.

    America/the world can't be the exact way you want it to be. So just appreciate what you have because it can be WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WORSE!!!!!!
     
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    the Japaneses are far more superior than US,A.. thats why we had to nuke them long ago.. but not so long. really..
     
  3. kokey

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    There are many issues around the world that needs more attention than this. America is a powerful nation and being powerful sometimes is very dangerous. America must help other nations and should stop the war, not initiate. I hope someday everybody can live peacefully.


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  4. Elijah

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    considering that it;s been shown that america funneled money to both the bolshevik revolution and the third reich thanks to wall street. no sense in even bringing up hitler, not only that. but it was the allies who killed the most during world war 2. including the lives of the innocent. we don;t do anything to keep order in this world and we do everything we can to keep chaos going. only thing i see here is fear mongering and a reactionary viewpoint. also considering america gave training to al quaida and funding to saddam hussein, according to all the gatekeppers we get our information from. we truly have no moral highground in any of this. copnsidering how porous our borders are, i can hardly say i feel safe. we're not defending our safety or freedoms neither if most of our military is overseas and they are.




     
  5. Rugor

    Rugor Senior Member

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    yeah japan does have more advanced technology. yeah nuking them was messed up. but we still would have won that war though. We just didn't want to lose that many soldiers to win.

    Anyhow it could be because they don't have to spend so much of their money time and research on military and weapons. Plus they are allies with us now. Along with many other countries. America is the #1 global control though. Our intelligence and military and weapon stockpile is the best.

    The War in the middle east is tuff. Why? because there are HORRIBLE terrorist groups trying to take over. At the same time there is also nomadic people/old school farmers/old values/primitive people in the middle east who want to keep old traditions and keep technology out of the middle east and preserve their culture. They don't know much about the media and everything that is going on. They just know they are living in this village and America is invading their country.

    So these evil terrorist groups bent on world domination are telling these villagers. Hey join us we are fighting the United States to preserve our cultures and old ways. So now these terrorist groups are recruiting all these nomads n such to join them. Using them as there grunts for their evil plans. These evil terrorist groups are going around spreading propaganda all over small villages speaking against America to make a general hate and distrust towards America.

    There poor nomads and villagers have no idea.

    Really America is just trying to establish a government for the people who do live in the cities so that the terrorist don't take over or so they don't get a evil ruler again like sadaam hussien. Then america is trying to stop the evil groups. Other than that america would leave the villager a lone and they can keep their villages and land. but these evil groups are easily taking advantage of them with words.
     
  6. Rugor

    Rugor Senior Member

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    you guys provided no counter argument to what I wrote? seriously be real and think about it? America is not meant to go around and fix the world's problems kokey. and kokey look throughout history? have people ever lived peacefully? elijah ok since you don't support america? what is the best way to run this world? lol come on? you think you got a better idea that would work?

    Like if you guys disagree.

    -What should America be doing

    -Why is the War Bad

    -How should the World Be run

    -With Technology Now days how can you stop evil groups from taking over?
     
  7. dday14

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    i agree. I've been to too many countries trying to solve to thier problems. Im SIck of it. Its about time we just focus on our own, because there not going away there only getting worse. We can only keep this up for so long. It's getting to the point where we either take care of others or take care of our own people. Which do you decide?
     
  8. blackcat666

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    rugor, i learned as a young kid living in duluth, minnesota, what was the good of the u.s.a.
    at 10 years of age my parents dragged me to san antonio, texas, i learned all the worst about u.s.a. there!
    i learned how mean and cruel consevative christians, conseverative republicans and, the american military all are!:mad:
    DON'T YOU DARE FEED ME THOSE LIES ABOUT "SUPPORTING AMERICA OR ANY GODDAMN AMERICAN WAR!"
    if i had been treated with the dignity becoming a human being instead of being walked and shittied upon by the "real americans," i would be far, far, far, rational then i'am right now.
    FUCK AMERICA! FUCK THE COCKSUCKING TROOPS! FUCK AMERICAIN WARS! I SHIT ON ALL OF THEM!
    after the abuse and cruely i suffer how in the could anyone "love america" or, any other nation if treated in such a manner?
    they can't. that has demostrated. that is just how the human brain is hardwired.
    you don't produce love of one's nation or, respect for one's national military
    by, letting "the troops" kick the shit out of them... that just does not work. never has and, never will.
    if i had been treated with kindness instead of terror, i would no doubt love my country and be supportive of it.
    instead i hate and fear it and, desire to destroy it.
    really, really, really, great going you "real true blue americans!"
    you failed in trying to make me love my country!
    you made a radical, revolutionary and, maybe even a terriorist out of me.
    SMART! SMART! REALLY! REALLY! REALLY! GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING SMART INDEED!
     
  9. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    America was a powerful nation.

    We just Can't Deal With Reality Any More
     
  10. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    we should all just submit to the will of allah and finally have peace everywhere

    and nuts, we should all have lots of nuts . . .
     
  11. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You’re right these days we’re surviving on reputation alone :(


    Hotwater
     
  12. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    soon the rep will be gone and we'll be in ruins and individual can come home . . .
     
  13. JackFlash

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    Individual won't come home until they stop forcing him to feed the poor.

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  14. Meliai

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    Pull out of the middle east completely, turn inward and become isolationists again, and focus on our infrastructure because it is in shambles. We can't pretend to be the leader of the free world anymore when our education system is lacking, our economy is faltering, our technology is falling behind, and our healthcare system leaves our people suffering.

    every war is inherently bad. That is the nature of war. Anything I say about this is pretty much a moot point. We already went there. And now we're coming back. No use beating a dead horse.

    If I knew the answer to this I would be leading my people instead of sitting on a computer with no people to lead.

    Covertly is the best way to deal with rogue groups, I would say. Otherwise, its a nation declaring war on an ideal, and that doesn't really work.
     
  15. JackFlash

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    You mean people like the Pilgrims who founded America?


    And they do this by supporting evil dictators around the world.


    We have one of the highest murder rates in the world, it's not working.



    Do you mean TeaBaggers?


    That's why we're in a depression?


    America sure put a stop to that, kill em so they can't kill each other.


    As long as you don't go anywhere


    Yes it can, the Republicans can get control again.

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  16. Rugor

    Rugor Senior Member

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    I did not most this to talk about the economy. I don't care about money our depression. I don't care if certain individual in America in texas seem like assholes. We are humans who are living on earth ok?

    We are humans living on earth ok? Some humans are nice and some are not. Some humans are smart and some are not. Some humans are selfish some are not. Some humans are followers some are not.

    I don't care who is running our government and how the system is run.

    Screw at that mindless stuff. I love camping. I go camping all the time in a TENT. Real camping. not a trailer or camper trailer or motor home. A tent and I bring no sort of electronic device with me. I live primitive when I go camping.

    We are humans. We live. This world is what you make it out to be in your head. if you think the media and all that stuff or correct go for it. I don't support the system at all.

    What I do support though is our military system and our intelligence agency.

    Why do i support it?

    Well because I can go camping and live old school in nature. I can fish and hunt for food and boil creek water to drink. But if America got taken over then i would not be free to do so. I don't have to work. I can just go camping the rest of my life. You don't need money. All you need to learn is survival skills. Life is simple if you make it simple. I am going to live in nature my whole life. Yes, I live in my dad's house. my dad works so I got access to a computer. but when I camp long term I am never come sick. The only reason I don't stay at there forever is I'd be distant from my family who lives in this house.

    THE INFORMATION YOU MUST READ!!!!!!!

    Like I said despite the fact that I love nature technology exists. Well guess what?? The mass majority of people could not live like how I enjoy. Most people can not stand to live in nature/camping without electronics. Most people like technology and the system and stuff. So therefor technology is not going to go away. This is the future. The world will never go back to the way it was. Indians now run casinos and hotels n stuff. They are not living in huts no more.

    You are all going off topic. Making me start some other debate. In REALITY i don't support America or ANY country for that matter. I only support what America is doing because without Global Control in this day and age it would be CHAOS. Your telling me you want Chaos over what you have now. I don't care if you don't like how it is right now. You can either have it how it is now or you can have it worse?

    so the question is. Why do you want it worse? I don't understand.

    I wish we could all live peacefully. I wish it was back in the days before technology. I wish I had a time machine to go back in time. I wish these systems didn't exist and we could just live together on earth and eat the food, play sports, blah blah blah. I wish things were simple.

    What you guys don't seem to understand is that Evil exists on this earth. If America was not a Global Control. You know what would happen? Someone else would try to be a Global Control. Do you even understand what that means?

    When I said America is running fine. It is. Does America torture you for saying I don't like the president? Can you go camping? Does the military go around raiding your neighborhoods? Other than small poverty gangs is there any terrorists citizens terrorizing complete cities and towns? BE REAL WITH YOURSELF!!!! BE THANKFUL!!!!! SELFISH PEOPLE WANT EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

    America has been running fine as a global control. We have the world in check right now. if we didn't terrorist groups would be taking over. then if I wanna go camping I would not be able too.

    Don't talk about the past pilgrims.I am talking about today and the future.


    What i say makes sense. how can it not. tell me what i am saying wrong? don't talk about money, media, the system. Talk about how it is possible not to have a global control ok? really? tell me smart people.
     
  17. Rugor

    Rugor Senior Member

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    I honestly think people are not reading everything I wrote and just replying to what the headline says. Please don't respond if you don't read what I wrote. I wish I coulda put that in the topic headline
     
  18. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    you have it so wrong i don't even know where to start to set you straight..
     
  19. Rugor

    Rugor Senior Member

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    nah I just think people are being stubborn. I don't like america just like you other people.

    but really?

    The only thing that could be better is some people who own a land have a military to protect it. and that it. no system just a military to keep the people safe. then within the people can do whatever they want. but it would also be nice to have a police force to stop murder, rape, and robbery too. but then with that that's it. the rest is free.

    I mean yes if some guy robs your house you could just get some weapons and together and maybe some local friends and neighbors and find the dude and beat him down. but it's more clean if your have a police force.


    and machinist what do you mean?

    All you gotta do is answer 1 question. How can we exist in this day and age with technology without a military to control stuff? if we don't it's just gonna be chaos and then our whole world will get wrecked and ravaged.
     
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    :leaving: ..lets make war with the beaners, and the mexican jumping beans.. they look like nuts., and they jump away. I say we kill them all-ah..haha.. :mad:
     

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