ok so today i bought salvia on a whim when i was high in my car and my friend told me this tabacco shop had it when i went to a glass shop 15 minnutes away. I tried salvia once before but didnt know to smoke as fast as possible. so i finally tripped hoping to have a spiritual experience but instead went into like wtf first i felt like i was fighting myself internally as in just random diffrent exact copies of me. during this it felt like i was folding into myself. like my head was constantly going towards my stomach. and i thought i waas changing dimensions and how i was doing it was go through these portals that are like doorways only without the door, and when i go through these doors im competing with myself's? with the copies and i have to move really slowly because my brain cant process traveling through all the dimention doorway and it feels like i cant move then i can fora split second. So tomarrow im going to do shrooms hopefully it isntas fucked up would you guys consider that a bad trip and do you always feel the same when you do salvia?
that's salvia . it's not exactly fun but there is a lot to be learned. shrooms are nothing like that. they are fun. really really fun .
I wouldn't say it was a bad trip... you just gotta let go and just kinda watch and feel everything happen. like Ynef said you can end up getting used to it and it can become very enjoyable.
i could probably be a little more helpful than i was... it could possibly help someone, y'never know okay, first of all, to the OP. i would have to ask you some specific questions about things like shapes and colors and directions to be sure it's the same place, and usually you can only really remember those kinds of things directly after the trip... but i am pretty sure i have been where you went, with the portals without doors, competing with yourself. for me, it was like a pie chart. and i was supposed to pick a slice to go into. i don't have any advice or anything because that was one of my earlier trips and i was too bogged down by anxieties to really trip into it, but does it sound familiar? maybe bring up some forgotten memories about the trip? and.... if i could give any advice for making a salvia trip less scary, the number one thing is to lie down somewhere very open, and make sure that you are ridiculously comfortable. the things that always end up scaring me are, am i moving around and breaking stuff? and, am i putting my body in some painful position? one time i layed out on a bunch of pillows and the whole trip consisted of me feeling the worst guilt i think i had ever felt in my life because i was sure my foot was hurting the pillow it was on. you should ideally have enough room to roll up in a ball and roll around without hitting anything, or to spread yourself out as wide as you can and still be at least a foot away from touching anything. more advice... don't play music with words until you've been to salviaspace quite a few times and start to get a handle on the rules. the words could possibly end up directed at you and hold meanings you could never have anticipated, which could scare the hell out of you. meditate on the concept of "doing drugs" for a minute or two before you do it, because i have had many a trip where i am completely baffled by the ridiculousness of the idea and get into arguments with the entities about how i got there. it ends up sounding silly when they ask you "what did you do to get here?" and you say "well, i think i put some stuff in this thing and i put fire on it and i breathed the smoke in" and as you're saying it you realize how silly you sound. and they don't believe you, they think you're lying, and they get really angry. so really meditate on what you are about to do, and what will be happening to you. and my number one tip beyond getting past the terror, to help make the experience worthwhile: have lots of blank printer paper and colored markers directly next to you and as soon as you gain the slightest bit of coherency, start writing, and switch colors whenever i feels "Right". write as big as feels right, in whatever style feels right. don't worry about it being sloppy or repeating yourself or spelling or even if it makes sense, or is in english. just write, completely on intuition, for as long as you can. if you do this every time, after a while you will notice meaning in the colors you choose, the size of the letters, etc. sometimes the dragged out messes will trigger the most vivid memories. and if you don't write things down immediately, i promise you will forget a LOT, without realizing it. you'll think you've got a pretty good handle on what happened until the instant your next trip kicks off and you realize you had no idea. it took me a long time to figure this out, and every time the trip would start i'd immediately think "ohhhh i forgot about this part!", but once you *get* something, once you can really remember it when you're sober, you've got it. so you will be able to spend less of your next trip thinking "oh, hey, i remember this!" writing this reminds me that a really long time ago someone here said i should write a guide to salviaspace, and i started to write a book ... now i think i shall pick it back up, haha. one of the coolest things about salvia is that there are rules that are the same to almost everyone, and methods that work the same way for almost everyone. it's like a puzzle that you have to figure out. i love it.
