would you ever suggest a shock collar on a dog

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  1. broony

    broony Banned

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    My dog is 13 months old.

    Now I ask this because this morning when i took her for a walk. We were coming home and we went around this corner (I live way out in the country btw) on the dirt road I live on, and she saw some people. I knew they were cross country skiers. Well she went into a full damn sprint and we are at least 300 yards away. She is the type of dog where if she sees anything unknown she will go check it out, she is a good dog, but she has moments, where we cannot stop her from taking off. Once she gets to the person she just loves you to death. Still though.

    If i'm walking her and she is ahead of me by only three feet, and sees something, i cant grab her, no possible way lol. So how else can I literally stop her....
     
  2. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    never! it seems very lazy on the humans part to hurt an animal into submission.

    plus a scared dog is a dangerous dog... if you had that collar on and were scared, waiting for the next shock, you may just snap one day..
     
  3. ChronicTom

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    Look for the remote collars that have the vibrating function.

    It doesn't hurt the dog in any way shape or form, it just stops them from doing what they are doing long enough to clue in you are calling them.

    Keep in mind that it isnt a magical thing though... pay attention for the first two weeks like a hawk... whenever she goes to take off or do something you don't want her to, call her name and yell stop as you push the button. After a few days (once she starts realizing and acting on the 'stop' command, extend it into come here and sit...

    It is much more cruel to let your dog do what it wants til it gets to the point that you can't handle or control it anymore. That's how you end up getting in the position where your dog is going to be put down for it's behavior.
     
  4. slappyman

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    I knew a guy that had a shock collar on his dog and the only thing that would happen was the dog would run a little funny while he pushed the button and then keep going. I think they're cruel but it was very entertaining watching my friend getting madder and madder the further the dog ran away.
     
  5. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    i've heard they can make the dog neurotic but have no first-hand experience with them

    and i hope i never do . . .

    i think most people use a leash?
     
  6. SweetBlasphemy

    SweetBlasphemy Senior Member

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    Yeah exactly what Boog said, shock collars are a no-no. I can't believe they even still sell them. If you are unsure of how to train your dog on your own, they do have reasonably priced training classes at pet store chains, most offer the first session free or like 50% off.
     
  7. ChronicTom

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    If a moron is using it, a leash can make a dog neurotic...
     
  8. rollingalong

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    i use a bb gun..its cheaper...1 in the ass and fido stops running....broony...there is a new invention..look it up,its called
    ''training'':mickey:...your dog should always look up to you first before leaving your side
     
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    They dont really work on Long haired dogs..... While training husky dogs, I know for a fact. The collar is not going to stop a dog in full run mode, Shock fences when a dog has a running starts, it makes it over the trip wire, before its even activated and the motion of the dog running, you can forget it.. dog is good as gone.. lol.. collar and all.. ;)
     
  10. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    i suppose that's true
     
  11. broony

    broony Banned

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    No, because 9 out of 10 times we don't see anybody and she does very well staying with me. We are out in the woods, im not going to use a leash.

    I really have no money to spend it on that. We are training her the same with our 12 year old shepherd. I would rather put money else where right now, even if its for her.
     
  12. SweetBlasphemy

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    That's fine, I don't blame you. Just a suggestion since you seem to be having trouble. Good luck.
     
  13. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    i'm sure there are plenty of online training tricks and tips.. google it your friend! :D

    have you even noticed that homeless peoples dogs are the best behaved dogs? probably because the dog is with them 24/7.. they are pack animals and need a leader. you may have to become the dogs everything for it to behave the way you want it to.
     
  14. Kinky Ramona

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    If you aren't going to put a leash on the dog, then you have zero reason to put a shock collar on her.
     
  15. SweetBlasphemy

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    ^^^too much rep... :\
     
  16. Death

    Death Grim Reaper Lifetime Supporter

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    There are some circumstances where a shock collar might help. My friend has this pitbull they got when he was a tiny puppy. I've never seen a pitbull actuall grow up, and I don't know if this is constistent with all pitbulls, but he has torn the shit out of everything they own. you can beat that dog in the head with a stick and it won't even flinch. it'll just keep wagging his tail and doing whatever. fists, feet, furniture, nothing phases him. he chewed THROUGH a metal cage. This dog is way too much dog for even itself... one of the biggest pits I've seen.

    I could definately put multiple shock collars on this dog and not feel the slightest bit of bad.

    but regular dogs generally need personal attention more than a shock collar. I could never put one on my Bella. She listens too well anyways. She responds to human emotion and facial expressions. very empathetic, so she's easy.
     
  17. Death

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    you just need a fucking leash.
     
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    Hot peppers Work just as good as stuns.. if not better..

    Why do you think Police have both type weapons to combat human bad behavior..
     
  19. SoulVibrations

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    I understand your situation completely, i never use a leash when i walk my dogs, which translates to them running through a feild with me throwing a ball for the bloodhound/lab mix and the other 2 chasing him. ;) but i too live in a very low populated area. However, when my dogs were young they were walked on a leash, around the perimeter of the yard at least once a day, don't let them go outside this perimeter when you're walking on a leash. Also, using a leash is really the only easy way to have your dog learn that when you guys are walking he/she has to ask you before leaving your side.. The dog(like posted earlier) should look up at you and wait for you to say "go on" or whatever.

    What kind of dogs is this? I think that matters a lot.. some dogs, like beagles will track something and never come back. Your shepard(german?) is twelve right, how is she when walking? Having an older dog that is well behaved is a great tool in teaching a younger dog.

    If you really just don't want to get a leash this is =
    this is a proven method, many hunters around here use these collars on their dogs. Some people say its cruel but the truth of the matter is a dog that understands its owner is a happy dog. It avoids the frustrated after the fact correction the dog is often confused by. Like people saying "bad dog" when the dog comes back to them.. This way you correct a behavior as its happening, and your not hurting the dog.
     
  20. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I know someone who used a training whistle for their Doberman for exactly the reasons you list. They had no success with anything else.

    They spent hours working with the dog to teach it to freeze on the whistle. It did work.

    They used a dog whistle not a regular one. They are not expensive and it might be worth a try?

    Good luck and remember at that age they are still a pup mentally and playful, so turn it into fun. The dog wants to chase, give it options to do so when it is safe. :)
     
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