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Is your meat in the netherlands as cloned and filled with antibiotics and hormones as it is here in the USA?

(Just curious) Your dreads are gorgeous.

 

you eat meat? yuck!!!

 

Wow, your dreads are gorgeous! Definitely an inspiration.

And if you do eat meat (I'm not jumping to any conclusions. You could be preparing it for someone else, it could be "artificial"/tofu meat. Hah), I won't judge you for it. People are scientifically and genetically omnivores, so it's only natural. The way our stomachs and teeth are designed all point to the fact that we were designed to eat both meat and vegetation. So rock on with your natural self if you eat meat, and if you don't, that's cool too.

 

wasnt judging..lol butyour actualy wring
we arent designed to eat meat or wed be able to eat it raw canines are too small to rear through raw mreeat tyhey are dsignd to chew roots ouir untestines also not designed t difest meat in fact if u stop eatting meat a year or more your unable to digest ityour body rects to it as a txin and it makes u very very sick
ucan nly digest it by unatural means cookng it nd having unnatiral bacteria in your digestive track brak it down for you
(not completely either, some remains in the intestines yndigested to rot for years)

natural imnivores can eat raw meat can bite into living animals can eat rotting meat (in the case od scavangers) they dont need gons to kill prey they kill bt biting
we cant we are not meant to eat meat
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That's sort of right, sort of not. We have the organs that were once used to eat raw meat (appendix, tonsils, etc) and we certainly come equipped with the internal structures that used to be able to eat raw meat. Over hundreds of years of people cooking their meat (to prevent diseases and infections), those organs lost their initial intent and purpose, which is why you can live without an appendix. If we weren't designed to eat meat, we wouldn't be able to eat meat (raw or cooked). If you fed a herbivore (think deer, rabbit, etc.) cooked meat they would get very sick regardless and wouldn't be able to digest it.

If you quit eating meat for a long time and then try to eat it again, you do have the possibility of getting sick. This further proves my point that humans used to be very capable of eating raw meat, but after years of not doing so, it's no longer possible. I actually think there ARE people who eat raw meat and raw eggs, but they have to train their bodies to do so.

Sorry, I'm actually having a bit of trouble understanding what you're saying (and I don't mean that in a rude way). People are somewhat "domesticated", as you may say. We have the ability to kill and hunt animals (have you ever watched those documentaries on the Discovery Channel of ancient humans, and cave people?), but instead of being equipped with large claws and huge fangs, we were equipped with a large brain, opposable thumbs and the gift of logic. So yeah, now-a-days we use guns and whatnot to kill prey, but it wasn't always like that.

Anyway, this is a completely different topic/debate! I didn't mean to open such a can of worms, but I completely disagree with you, soaringeagle. If people weren't meant to eat meat, we wouldn't have canines at all (we'd pretty much have a mouth full of molars), and we physically would not be able to digest it (cooked or raw).

 

No one has ever told me face to face not to eat meat, strange that.

 

Gorgeous, just gorgeous

 

look again at nature hippos ansd elephanys...vegatarians haVE HYGE TUSKS USED TO GET AT ROOTS
its been proven over and over our teath are designed for leafy vegyables..and roots and barks..not meats
meateaters also have a short digestive track not long like ours to prevenr meat from building up and rotting inside
our big brains aloud us to addapt and eat things we were never meant to eat..just look at a;ll the chemicals and crap we eat thats not meant to be part of our dietrs ..we are adaprable yes but naturaly we are meant to be vegatarians..
the fact is, when we stopped being vegatarians is when society began to go wrong and wars began..
meat eatting animals are agressive by natuere vegatarians passive (deffensive yes but not agressive generaly)

 

Peer reviewed study or it didn't happen.

 

I agree on a couple things in the vegetarian debate but I dont have the same idea on that I love meat and its not true that I'm not made to eat meat either.

I got very strong believes and I grow dreads for those reasons but I won't become vegetarian I don't think it's the most healty way to go you need to eat meat but yea its modified and all but some is better.

 

Meat in itself is not a bad thing. The way mankind today processes it, especially in America, is what makes it unhealthy. Too much fat and grease are added to the mix. I'm a very firm vegetarian except that I do eat fish on a regular basis, but the only reason I am is because I refuse to eat processed meat and such.

 

You should ready Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's book of meat, it's a real eye opener as far as the wholesale bad husbandry and adulteration of most meat goes, thankfully from a decidedly pro-meat stance.

 

I was just curious if meat is as bad in the netherlands as it is here in the US

 

Now that's a load of you-know-what. To use your example, hippos are the most aggressive/dangerous animals in Africa. Yeah, out of lions, cheetahs, leopards, hyenas, etc. hippos are the most dangerous and the most aggressive. Look it up, really. And most carnivores are only aggressive in defensive situations as well.

ETA: The tusks of mammals like elephants, warthogs, hippos, walruses, etc. are not the same types of teeth that humans have which show that they are omnivores. A tusk is a protruding incisor, canines (the types that humans and, alas, other meat eaters/omnivores have) are the signs of a meat eater. So there goes the tusk theory.

And lastly, take a look at our closest living relatives. Apes are omnivores, just like humans. *shrug*

ETA: I found a very helpful link that is much more detailed than I am, and much more factual. If you're interested. Humans are Omnivores.

 

gippos are very dangerouse yes because theyre very deffensive, not agressive they will defend theyre areas. but will not go agressivelyafter you if you stay clear of them
theres a difference between agressive and deffensive behaviors doesnt mean that they both cant be deadly dangerouse



ofcoyrse they can be taight agression like in the case of bulls in rodeos
but bulls naturasly wouldd only ne deffensive of theyre herds



ifcoyrse when ut comes to mating rights though all rules are off then...lol



oh btw the girillas being omnivores thing came from them being observed licking ants off a stuck after dipping it in the anthill as far as i know its only been onserved once and could very easily be explained by babylike citiosity instead of quest for sustinance
(how many ants myst a 1000 piund garila eat if hes gotta eat something like 600 pounds of vegatation a day?") there was also a case of some kinda monkey showing canabilistic behavior biyt sont think thats common


i do remembrr seeing that though where they were eatting ants, and aty least at that time it was the only time it was observed so was coincidered a big deal..

 

So your saying hippos are vegetarian arseholes? How rare.

 

Ack. It's hard to not keep responding, but I feel like an asshole derailing the thread. I'm sorry, I promise this will be the last time I respond!

What do you think predators do? They get aggressive if you invade their territory (like hippos). They get aggressive when you go near their kids (like hippos). They are territorial over their families/mates (like hippos). They act out and give warnings if you come too close (like hippos). The only difference is that they hunt their pray to survive (whereas hippos eat vegetation). That's not aggression, that's surviving. Animals, predator or herbivore, don't just strike out for no reason. Are you implying that vegetarians are less aggressive than omnivores by this comparison? Because I don't think that's true either. One of the most aggressive, bitchy people I know is a vegetarian.

Gorillas aren't omnivores, that was my mistake by classifying all apes, they're pretty much herbivores. Eating insects doesn't count as being an omnivore, so which ever scientist said that is an idiot. But Chimps are apes, they're omnivores (they have been seen hunting, although they generally scavenge if they eat meat), and their body structure greatly resembles that of a human.

Anyway, I think the link I provided speaks for itself. The man who wrote that site/particular article is a vegetarian himself, so it's not biased either. To sum up my thoughts rather well, this was his conclusion:

 

soaring ealge is 100% correct and i think that you people should listen to the wise words of an elder,

we are NOT meant to be eating meat, we are living under the rule of babylon were people are made to think that they have to eat meat and are brought up on it,

i myself was brought up eating meat but since i have learned better i have stopped eating meat, i havnt eaten it for many years now and i feel much more healthy, i have more energy and i am always more positive, plus i get sick alot less,

how can u live positivly eating somthing wich is negative???,

life = positive
death = negative

rastafari livity..........