Women are losing again...

It would be more true to life.

I'm not thin...if I want to buy a bathing suit or underwear...I would rather see it on someone with my body type instead of a stick thin model...at least I know how it would REALLY look.

I wouldn't buy a muscle mag or a fashion mag anyway...I don't support those kinds of industries.

 

So you'd have to provide models for every body type imaginable. Thats not feasible. Dont they have those plastic liners in bathing suit bottoms that lets you try them on?

Besides, until you try it on you'll never know what it really looks like.

Edit:

Alright, well the point i'm trying to make is that people buy those magazines to 'improve themselves.' Putting an overweight person on a muscle mag isnt going to entice me to buy that magazine and make me buy it.

 

My point is, if you're going to put someone on the cover of a magazine or in a swimsuit...put the average woman on there...The average American woman is 5'4" and 164.3 pounds...not 5'10" and 110 pounds like most models are. Put the size 12-14 woman on there (which is the average size the American woman wears), not the size zero woman.

Depict reality, not a stereotype of what a woman should be when only about .5% of the American population has the "model" body type. I think this brainwashes men into thinking that a goodlooking woman looks like those they see in playboy or on the cover of Cosmo.

So they are being objectified. It's not right. And I'm not talking about muscle mags. I'm talking about magazines where they put airbrushed women on the front...to attract both men and women. It's sickening.

 

And suckers fall for it everytime.

 

If that's not objectifying someone, I don't know what is.

Women aren't on the earth to please the eyes of men...and vice versa. I'm so sick of hearing that crap.

 

I'm glad I'm not hot, so that I don't get objectified. I think women have a less tendency to objectify men because they aren't splattered everywhere half naked all the time.

A fact of life? Yup, people like you is what is wrong with soceity. Accepting things that shouldn't be accepted. Well...since homosexuality isn't accepted by republicans, I guess we should just not accept homosexuality in general. That's crap.

 

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If you were a woman, you'd understand what we go through on a daily basis when it comes to the way men treat us.

You're not a woman, so I don't expect you to understand.

 

Maybe these women don't realize that they are being objectified...and maybe they don't care...

I feel sorry for these women...and they are the reason women won't go any further in this world.

 

if that is not the biggest copout in the world...

 

you've obviously never driven down the streets of manhattan.

 

I've joined into this discussion so late, and not sure if this has been coved...

But how about going right back to when the seed of disrespect first gets planted...


Referring to anything, especially the person you love, as "my ..........." anything, allows all the other terms of ownership in the our vocabulary.

That we're discussing extremes such as "bitch" and "ho" just means that we're let it go on for far too long.

Again, thank you Libertine for proving that no excuse for this treatment ever stands up to good rational reasoning.

 

OMFG!!!!



This starts at the marriage alter..



"Do you, ....... ......... ......... take this woman to be your lawfully wedded husband/wife..."

It's now become the way we think....

I know this is a bland and not so eloquent point, but I believe it really is true!

 

thats why i am against asking parents permission to marry. to alot of people its the courtious thing to do and a sign of a gentleman but it goes back to old times when women were considered property and so the man would ask her father for her "hand" in marriage.

 

are people really against saying something like "my love?"

that is just...mind boggling.

 

die in a ditch insanejester.

 

'tis silly

just because you feel a connection to someone, that they have affected you enough that they do control/influence your behaviour, doesn't mean you're trying to own them

nothing wrong with 'my" from time to time

 

*cums on insanejester's face*

 

I Have Wasted Enough Time On This Shit With People Who Have Been Warned. Now I Have To Take Up An Other Hour Of My Time And Redo This Thread.

Enough.

 

I know it must be hard to understand being a Conservative and all, but there are actually some people out there that view women as people and not just "objects of their desire."

I realize it is extremely difficult for Conservative people (like yourself) to look beyond the "ownership" philosophy, seeing that you all apply it to everything--even relationships.

Hopefully you'll eventually get over the Paternalistic Caveman view of women.