Women are losing again...

If my husband ever thought of me as a "prize" or compared me to an awesome toy he wanted as a kid well...he probably wouldn't be my husband in the first place!


Women don't want to be looked at as an accomplishment by their man. Well, not I anyways....

 

you can say that about anything, maggie.

I think i would fall down laughing if i ever heard a guy seriously refer to his girl as 'my bitch' or 'my ho.' The only time i've ever heard a statement like that, it was clearly a playful joke and was taken as such by the girl to whom he was refering.

The overwhelming majority of times i've heard 'bitch' 'slut' 'ho' used was in anger. Is that not equivalent to a woman calling a guy a 'prick' 'dick' 'asshole' or 'jerk?' I dont think words used in anger can really be used to show that society 'condones' the degredation of women. We don't condone anger and we often say things we don't mean in a fit of rage. That, however, is far different from guys walking up the street and calling women he sees 'hos.' I don't believe society accepts that.


Libertine: as for the trophy wife? Come on, lets not deny women their intelligence or common sense..they aren't children. I think 'trophy wife' might be the politically correct word for 'golddigger.' If a guy wants a girl purely on looks and a female is happy to oblige because he has money, status, power who are you or i to judge? Let two superficial people enjoy each other. I dont believe that women are that naive when it comes to relationships. And do you hold similar disgust for golddiggers as you do for guys who want trophy wives?

 

Did you read what I had written about the glorification of MONEY?

There's your answer. I made myself clear a long time ago about that.

 

I have witnessed countless men degrade women in the presence of their male friends, and are bold enough to do it in my presence. They make horrible comments about their girlfriends or their friends' girlfriends constantly. It's disgusting and unacceptable.

 

fair enough.

A problem i see with you is that you want people to conform to your standard, even though you claim you're anti conformity

how do you think we should 'fix' society so we can foster peace, harmony and love?

 

Are you talking to me?

 

no libertine, sorry. Was too lazy to hit the quote button

 

My standard???

I didn't know that I came up with peace, harmony and love.

Damn, I'm good.

Wow, I also didn't know that peace, harmony, and love was conformity. I don't believe in all dressing alike, acting alike, liking the same art, music, food, etc. I just want EQUAL rights for all. Is that too much to ask?

Simple. Follow the "standards" laid out by Jesus, by Buddha, by MLK, by many people who believe and have experienced a greater awareness.

 

I am an important person in my husbands life, I am his partner. We are best friends. I am not his iPod or his truck. I am a hell of a lot more to him than "something of value" that's for sure. It's comparing apples to oranges. Well, it is for my husband and I at least, clearly not all people.

I'll say it again, I don't want to be looked at as an accomplishment or prize by any man. I'm not "won" or "caught". I don't even like that whole mindset...

 

BEYOND clueless. The struggle has been going on for far longer than you have been alive.

Respect a womyn, a real womyn, in a real relationship, and you may have an idea.

 

If you love a woman, she will be the most beautiful woman in the world to you.

And until you realise that, you probably won't know the beauty of love.

 

???Are blind as a fucking bat??

6'1 185 ain't the largest, but I ain't no small fry either, chump.

Trust me, pal. I can handle myself quite nicely.

I never iniate. It's against my beliefs.

But, you proved my point,see. You think of things on terms of "big dick" philosophy. I am a billy badass if I can physical assault another person? That's not being a man, son...that's being someone asking for trouble.

Oh, and you can rest assured, if I caught a man assaulting or disrespecting a woman (and she was trying to get away or wanted help) I would DO WHATEVER IT TOOK--understand? comprehend that?

PS. I'd say it to your face. Believe it.

 

That's exactly your problem, you are disrespectful. All people are deserving of respect, just because. You don't need a reason to show people respect, you need a really good reason for not showing them respect (kinda like how in this thread we are all losing any bit of respect we might have had for you). You never heard of the golden rule? If you want people to respect you, you're going to have to get rid of your disrespectful attitude and show people some respect.

as far as women being oppressed, it's everywhere. It's in the media, every time you turn on the tv or read the paper. It's in advertising more than anywhere else. It's so pervasive in our society, that people simply ignore it if they don't just accept it as the way things are. But just because you choose not to see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's very real. Here's a good example - I personally suffer chronic pain. Doctor wants to castrate me (total hysterectomy) because he has run out of ideas to help me. How many men you know been told by a doctor they have to cut their balls off for any reason? How many men you know would agree to it, for any reason whatsoever? How many women you know have had hysterectomies? Why is that any different? Just because our parts are on the inside? Just because female reproductive organs aren't as important as male ones?
another example, or hundred... watch any Disney animated movie, especially the classic ones. Who are the bad guys, ALWAYS? Strong women. Who are the good guys? Either the pitiful weak princess that needs to be saved by Prince Charming, or the Prince himself.
Why are women the ones staying home taking care of the children (sometimes)? Why are stay-at-home-fathers treated so poorly? Because staying home with the kids is "women's" work and somehow makes them less of a man. Same with other "pink collar" professions... it's beneath a man to do certain things, but it's good enough for a woman. Everything typically thought of as maculine is good, and everything typically regarded as feminine is less desirable. If you still don't recognize that women are oppressed in our society, there's nothing any of us can do about that. It is just another symptom of the greater problem, young, white, males thinking there is no problem. You were born into a life of privilege, no matter what you might think. You have advantages other people do not have, just because of the color of your skin and the fact that you have a penis. It's true. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

Honey, You are the last person I need giving me relationship advice regarding my husband.

My husband thinks of me way more highly that "something of value" or a "prize." He thinks of me as a person and a partner. There is nothing I need to reassess there.

 

uh uh uh, i dont even know what to say about this. I'm speechless.

DO you really want to compare the number of bad guys to bad women in movies. Do you REALLY want to go there?

Why are the 'strong women' bad guys as opposed to 'weak princess?' Uh, jeez, let me think about that.

Um, do you think women staying home or men staying home is a better representation of our society? Thought so.

Good question, Why does society treat stay at home men so bad? Probably because women are taught that men who stay at home are freeloaders while women who are 'freeloaders' are taking care of the house/kid.

Really, so thats why jobs like nurses/teachers are considered very favorable by the general public?

and men can make a pretty good argument too.

If you dont recognize it, there's nothing any of us can do about that. It is just another symptom of the greater problem, young, white women, thinking there is no problem. You were born into a life of privilege, no matter what you think. You have advatnages other people do nto have, just because of the color of your skin and the fact that you have tits. Its true. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

Thanks for pretty much proving our point for us. "Tits" is our advantage?

 

Thanks for pretty much proving my point. "Penis" is our advantage?

 

Die in a ditch insanejester.

 

i agree with insanejester and cooloner. i wouldn't DISrespect anyone for being a man just for being a man, nor a woman for being a woman, nor would i automatically respect them. respect is earned, so is disrespect.

 

"Best?" yes. But, "Best" doesn't translate into "best looking." I think I have a pretty good guy. He's nice looking. But, I was asked out by more traditionally "better looking" dudes, and choose Bear, because of WHO he is, not what he looks like.

Are you serious? I actually have no idea. I'm a grown womyn, with children, I don't know who would do this, to my face. To my face, (outside of the occasional idiot who get offended when you get 10 car lengths ahead of you, in his lane, and screams things out the window at you) I couldn't say. But, I don't know what people say behind my back. I have no idea if people call me a "ho." Most of the people I know well don't speak like that, so I don't know.

Sorry, I don't respond to demands. "right now." Gimme a break. I ain't you ho. ROTFL.