Woman Fighting on the frontline

Feminism has come a long way in their ideas - one thing still left to do is to get equal rights to fight alongside men on the battlefield.. e.g 50% men and 50% woman

I got to admit .. if any feminist was to say 'YES! WE NEED THIS!" you must be completely retarded to want to kill other human-beings in combat

and for any feminist to say 'uhhh we don't want THAT equal right' I would have to ask why not ... it is one of your main principals to have equal rights in everything that men do.

I think this argument is one of the most important when it comes to talking about feminism ... it shows a deep hole in the principals and ideas ..

 

I highly doubt any country would want 50% of the front lines to be women. It's just not practical.

 

why would it not be practical?

Woman have killed.
Men have killed.

Killing in the military style is learned .. therefore anyone can do it. male or female.

 

I think anyone who joins the army should be prepared to die. *shrugs*

I still don't think it's practical to have a front line that is 50% smaller, weaker people, not to mention menstruation as a problem...good luck winning any battles.

 

I hope you are not a feminist daisymae hahaha because saying that females are weaker people than males would be a big no no .. in feminism 101.

What about if all armys of the world agreed to 50% female and 50% male .. would that be fair to you?

 

Why did you start yet another thread on this same topic?

 

i have known women that wanted to serve in infantry and artillery.and there are women i have known that although the subject came up i would be glad to serve along side if we came into a firefight.i don't believe the goal would be 50-50.the military needs the best trained personel to be in the field and should not be concerned with maintaining a ratio.i would think if there was an official feminist view is that if a woman wants to serve in combat they should have that opportunity .

 

To reach more of a audience.

 

yes .. I understand completely.

If a woman wants to put her life on the line to protect a cabinet of bankers and men on government that they will never meet face to face who also exploit their own people ... they should have the right to do so.

 

Well hell if they want to be equal as men let them see how men fight.
I gaurantee we would be the laughing stock of every other countrys military.

But if they really wanted to do it then they should be tested against men to see if they could do the job as good or even better than a man.

 

This is a lot like women firefighters, right? How do you think that has turned out?

 

look .. I think you see the point .. the point is simple ... woman on the frontline is silly; any gender on the frontline is silly ...

its a flaw in the idea of feminism .. feminism may have worked for alot of woman to get them to a better place .. but it has to come to a end sooner or later .. the idea has run its course into the ground.. to continue would mean they are looking for better rights than men(if you can call it that) .. or just plain stupid rights ..

the principals put into practice do not work anymore...
just like capitalism .. just like communism .. just like most theorys and ideas that have lived their life ...

I think that ideas have a lifespan .. some live for thousands of years .. others for 100 years .. the idea of feminism is dying/dead holding onto its last breathe.

Feminism is like a cure for some situation ... if somebody has cancer .. and you give them a pill that helps cure cancer ... after most/all of the cancer is gone ... the logic step is to stop giving them the pill .. otherwise it will mutate into something very odd indeed ... this is just like feminism and other ideas .. once it is cured/the best its going to get ... its time to give it up.

 

First off,it's barbaric and un civilized for humans to still be having wars-- but we have them because we're still barbaric and un civilized.Any nation that puts its' women in harms way in WAR is despicable and particulary uncivilized and wrong.Men start the wars and they should take the consequences.Women just wanted to vote and get equal pay in this inequatable capitalist bullshit.

 

You sound much more reasonable now, compared to your opening statement, which I thought was very weak. I think we might have different ideas of what feminism is, but I kind of agree with you. I am against affirmative action, because I don't think it's needed any more, and you can't fix discrimination with reverse discrimination. Feminism has also largely run its course. I hardly know any women anymore that identify themselves as feminists.

 

of course that is what War is.. and worse. The point I was getting to was that the nation of feminists following their principals would have evenually put themselfs in harms way... You cannot generalize one gender for starting all wars - its a two part deal; PEOPLE start the wars ... lets not hold up one gender to be holy and untouched as men and woman are both as uncivilized as each other - Not all feminist just wanted to vote and get equal pay .. if that were the case; they would have stopped at that ... but feminists are still fighting today; I think we should also look at the use of the words that people use today - they 'FIGHT' for their rights which of course is uncivilized.

I do agree that this capitalist society has outlived its purpose - just like the idea of feminism ... the capitalist idea is long gone and dead; you can tell its dead due to the effects it is having on people today ... War; Poverty; Global Warming; Violence etc etc etc

When a idea starts to turn sour ... it has terrible effects; just like when you take too many drugs .. it has terrible effects.

Most ideas have a lifespan .. capitalism is dead.. its time we left it to rest - I think and hope that something is going to replace it pretty soon .. otherwise .. the longer we stay in such a dead system ... the more rotten we become

 

Your point on affirnative action is completely accurate and correct - you see the horrible results of people still using such a system - I think to sum it up just like i said in the above post; all these systems - feminism; AAction etc etc they are all dying out .. they have all died .. the only thing left to go is the capitalist system... we had the communist .. it died .. now its time for the capitalist system to go ... But I have to be honest; I have no idea what comes next .. it can't be communism again .. this is what really puzzles me - I sometimes wonder if this is the END END ... not just of capitalism but humanity; but then again .. I was born into capitalism; I do not know of any other system or way of living for the whole of mankind

what is globalization? is that basically capitalism with elements of communism? if all globalization is .. is capitalism .. then we are heading to a sharp end.

 

sunfighter when was the last time you changed your mind? - In the sense that timothy leary was talking about.. I think mine was over 2 years ago

 

Well, it's been eight years I think. Just two weeks ago, I took a large dose of mushrooms that I bought in the parking lot this spring at a Dead show, but (sigh) nothing happened; I got ripped off. So, I am really ready to change my mind again :hat:, but I am having great difficulty finding the real deal here in Boston.

(Anybody want to PM me?)

 

You think you have problems in Boston? You should try Scotland considering the lack of people in the place

 

That's retarded. Unless you consider each gender a separate collective, there's no reason the average man should have to pay for these people's crimes any more than the average woman.