Windows vs Linux

Why can't Linux be just point and click and user friendly like windows? If it was more people will switch

 

Well, how about TELLING people about linux...

That way more people will make software for linux.

 

there is some point and click linux distros available.

besides, it all depends on what you wunt. that is why there is sooooo many hundreds of distros available. different ppl have different demands. right now, i am just pointing and clicking on my linux desktop.

 

Me too. I just point and click away. But if I choose to do things faster or wanna tweak a program I CAN by going into a terminal and typing a few nice words into the shell and my computer obliges very happily. Mostly I point and click. A lot of tweaks are point and clickable these days too. Linux has windows but windows ain't got Linux. Linux is very User Friendly I think. IMHO but hey it is my opinion and every body has one. Like Adderall said it depends on which distro and then in some of them which version of the distro you are using. And I get tons of software for the download all for free or if it is commercial software it is cheaper than a Windows equivalent. Linux distros distribution websites just ask you to contribute to the cause, like passing a magic hat at a gathering. If you got cash you send a donation, if you are a developer then you help develop, etc......Me I run my mouth as that is what I am good at. I spread the word and bug websites to be more Linux friendly. Ubuntu is very point and click and so is Red Hat, Mandriva, as well as many others I have not tried yet. Debian is fairly point and click. Which is what Ubuntu is based on. But there are so many distros out there in the Linux world...who can keep up!!! So, if you think Linux should be more like Windows then develop your own distro and put it out on the web. Actually, I think Windows should be more like Linux. But hey that's just me.

Love my Linux, Cricket

 

i have been pondering the possibilities of what i could build for an OS. i already understand the core concepts of how the kernel works and i think one day i am gonna write a basic binary code that will pick a computer up and work on my very own OS from scratch. not linux, not windows, not unix.

my goal is a cross between OS/2 Warp (and the road they chose to be compatible with win32) and possibly Solaris (who natively encourages the multiportable language Java). of coarse, i will not use code from either one because my code will be from scratch. i would just like to have an operational aim that is somewhere in the region of those OS's. after my first build is ready, i would make it portable and scalable for linux binaries to graft the X Server onto it. then i would take the whole code of the X server and re-write it with modifications directing to a new layer in computing: the "user" layer...

i am crazy and one day i will waste my time building this. but right now, i gotta get some sleep.

 

Which distro have you been using? I think all I have had to do is point and click with Ubuntu. While I have used the terminal I don't think I have had to do so and not nearly as much as with other distros. I think it is very user friendly. The documentation on their website is awesome.

 

10 years ago I wouldn't touch linux but it's come a LONG LONG way since and most things can be done graphically ala Windblows. I ditched Windows 8 years ago and now run Macs and play with Linux as well. I LOVE IT.

Tom

 

Hey, do you know of any OS's that are pure OOP. I mean no scheduler like a kernel. Is this even possible as there'd probably be some sync issues between different objects?

 

an OS that has purely Object Oriented Programming?... i am not sure what you mean. a kernel can be written many different ways, so it could be possible. you can even write your own programming language, libraries, and drivers.

there are OSes out there that can run on anything. there is no point in designing some nice ECU for a car to control the air/fuel ratios and stuff if you cant actually operate it. this requires an OS to make it work. a very basic OS.

there are people that run BSD and Linux on their wireless routers, so it is possible to have a very basic OS that uses no object oriented programming.

did that help?

 

There is no way in hell you, by yourself will be able to write an OS from scratch.

I'm not trying to put you down, but it's impossible. Look into it a bit more.

 

bullshit.

 

lol to write it from scratch yes. Operating system means kernal and userland. He'd have to program each program for it, write the kernal, and write the assembly code for how to interpret the hardware.

If he wanted to use linux as a base and build a distro yes he could do it.

He directly stated that he would write an OS that could rival Linux and Windows, which would be similar to os/2 warp and possibly solaris. To do this by himself is impossible. If he said he wanted to start a project and have people help him, yes it could be done.

If he means a mini operating system for a calculator or something again yes he could do it, but he could never touch windows or linux in a lifetime by himself.

 

I think in a lifetime he certainly could (or someone at least)

I mean, when you consider their advancements, things may be a bit different though :tongue:

 

I think the only person who could do it would be a savant that dedicated his entire, abnormally long, life to it. He MAY be able to do it.

When most people think about an OS they forget alot of the parts. For example HURD has been in development since 1991ish lmao, and THEY are still working on it. Gnu Hurd is supposed to be relatively revolutionary when it comes out, but that's yet to be seen (and should be anyway for a 16 year development time).

Linux is so virulent because everybody has their own version and uses different programs, Linux is more grown than designed. That makes for an extremely robust OS even if that also makes it far from standardized.

Anything is theoretically possible, but it would be statistically impossible.

 

Why be so negative? Yes, it is an impossible task for one human to write an OS from scratch withing their limited lifetime. But in my long life I have learned this one thing..... NOTHING is impossible. The human brain in 99.99 percent of human beings is virtually unused and then in the rest not used optimally. If one person can figure out how to access and use enough of their brain cells to Really access their potential then yes it IS possible. The rest would be all typing and writing the programs. And with some of the new super computers coming available to help with that task it just might not be so farfetched and idea. And it still would be a daunting task. Heck it wasn't that long ago that computers were just punch card readers.

As for Linux......I love it. But if someone ever comes out with something better I'll switch in a heartbeat.

I for one say Linux beats Windows hands down. And sooner or later some geek will figure out a better way of running a computer. And whether or not it is written by one person or a collaboration of thousands it will happen.

Peace, Cricket

 

joe linux was orignaely strted by oen person the first ever unix kernal was written by an 18 yera old university student he write it as a shell based os then he and a few friends started rightign mroe software togetehr the os was written by oen person and one person only so sorry to say my friend and os can eb written totlyay by oen person i my self have used an unxi kernal and started from scratch made my own linux kernal fromt he unix kernal then drew the os i even writ my own gui isystem i nevre realeased it because of bugs on other computer i writ it for me and me only it is ver posible it can take up to 2 years to do it tho

 

It wouldnt be that hard if I made something that could compile source code. Sure it still might take a while, but not as hard as you think.

For example, BSD can compile Linux source code.

I could write my core system management and CLI and then test it by compileing source code for other Unix-compatible systems. btw, nothing is more compatible than Unix.

I bet you just didnt look at it that way. Do things seem more clear that way?

 

Sorry by oneself it is impossible.

Yes linus did alot for linux, but without the community and a ton of support he never would have written anything close to a usable KERNEL. Gnu provide the userland of what is typically called linux. So he did not write an OS.

Maybe the OP could write something basic by himself if he dedicated most of his life to it, but nothing near linux or windows or OS X.

Sorry you can say what you will but just google around, and look at some of the other attempts. THEY consider getting the keyboard to work a MAJOR accomplishment. So nope he will never write a competitive OS by himself.

 

I totally agree with you. I'm using Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn or something and it's all just so damn confusing! It took me hours to work out how to install something from a CD. It's great if you know how to use it efficiently, but for the most part, I just find it frustrating

 

I was running Win2000 and it got completely munged twice by viruses (I had antivirus + firewall on it).

I've gone back to Linux, and everything runs like a dream.

I feel clean again.