I'd like to know why a certain old hippy came into the young hippie thread for the simple purpose of starting a massive fight? I have no doubt young hippies do it too... but what I really wanna know Why cant the young and the old get along, were stuck here, together on this beautiful planet, so why is there this competion for the badge of the battler hippie who knows all... I know that I know little about this world, and I reckon I wont be much closer to knowing it all by the time I die.... Where is the peace, and the love that once was preeched? and why pick on the kids when you fought so hard against the "olds" when you were young?
Yes, I probably should have put the thread in shouldnt I http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30679
there realy is not any diference between a young hippe and a old hippie. don't mater what the world was or is like when you cut your teeth we all live in today, for one I realy salute the young hippies, don't mind the ones that argue with them either "Question athority' and all that Jazz
the impression i got was that the author of the thread might have been trying to draw out the smart asses who lurk this board. i understood her reasoning and frustration, but if you are going to poke the young pups, you need to make sure you have everything in order and your spelling correct. one slip up will cause your message to be in vain because of one little screw up. but as i said, that's what i got out of it. but her conversation did start to nose dive at the end. weird.
i felt nothing but absolute derision towards shameless_heifer after reading that thread. the entire thing proved her to be an ignorant old windbag who thinks that because she comes from a certain era it makes her different and better than the rest of the world. not to mention the ridiculous progression to the point where she said the end of the world was coming the next thursday, and incoherent english. i have the utmost respect for anyone who has experienced life and can teach me what they've learned, but she doesn't seem to have gained much wisdom for someone who has apparently been through so much. maybe she needs to listen to dylan's the times.. again, and really pay attention. "Come mothers and fathers all over this land And don't criticize what you can't understand Your sons and your daughter are beyond your command Your old role is rapidly aging Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand For the times they are a changing"
so you condem me for a thread.. did you read the dare thread.. and you bash me?? Sage was the only one that had any light in her heart when she posted.. I was trying to talk to these boys to see where there coming from..they were being so hurtful and down right mean to people..where I come from you respect your elders..you say I don't deserve respect and I'm an ignorant old wind bag..walk a mile in my shoes hun and come back and tell me what you saw what you sufferd..the end of the world thing was a joke.. good grief.. y'all are so tence and ridged that one cant make a joke....my incoherent english.. well everybody makes mistakes in spelling even the spelling police..and isn't the message more important than the spelling.. and I'd like to see someone stand up against three or four fire breathing dragons and see how long they go..I my self have never been faced with such rudeness.. my kids never acted like that.. I never knew any kids that acted like that..maybe it was stupid to try and reach these hurtfull boys.. my bad and I accept full responsibility for everything I said... my intent was pure..but thoses boys could turn sister terrisa into a raving lunitic.. lose my momentum.. well if you mean that I got tired of beating a dead horse.. yes.. I gave up..I was getting no where.. there's no reasoning behide this kind of behaivor.. and if you really want to get pissed off go read my 'should there be a password' thread...then you'll hate me for sure if you hated me for that thread..I use my experiences as lessoons of life..if my experience can help keep someone for harm, then the names and other hurtful things you say about me don't matter..for I would have been of some use, and all the pain and suffering I went through so we'd all have a better place to live it.. I have paid my dues.. and sometimes I feel I stil paying dues because it's been a hard fucking road.. I had to step over a lot of casulties along the way to be here.. so I'm outspoken.. so I put things out there that's needs to be addressed.. I do unto others all day long.. I get tired and I get crankie sometimes.. I am human after all..you judge me so harshly and are ready to lynch me..have you ever tried to get to know me.. have you read any of my positive posts.. I may contribute more than you think.. do you think I lived 54 yrs and raised 6 kids to adulthood without learning anything of value to pass on.. I bet if you knew me in person you'd like me.. I must be likable because my house is always full of people laughing and having fun.. I have ones of all ages here.. they come everyday..even all my son's ( I have four) x girl friends stll hang out here.. so I can't be all bad..
When I read a post here i like to be focused on the "subject" of the post and the "intent" of the post. Is the subject matter something I am interested in?? And what is the intent of the poster for posting it?? I also see alot of regulars that are dear to my heart and when I do see those names, I always go and see whats up with them. Sometimes i agree with what they are saying, sometimes their take on a subject is different than mine. I accept that, I am older than alot of my favorite posters. And I'm younger than a few (sigh). But the one thing is the young have never been older, but the older have been young. And from generation to generation the superficial look of our stuggles my look different.. but go deeper and we experience so much of the same. Alot of the things the young go through now I went through as I grew and am still growing. We all come to this table from different head places, heart places and physical places...but we have come together. And while I agree that some respect should be earned I also believe that basic considerate respect for another human being ...should be a given. And when an argument stops having that respect,it is time to go cool off. We all have something to offer, even the younginns who are flippant and brash can offer us a lesson, to me.. it shows that they too are looking for a place, albeit a place to go and act "cool" and show off to their group.But I have seen so many of the so called "flamers" have their wonderful moments too. But alot of youngsters are like that, "feelings" confuse and confound them and they are figuring it all out too. Some have a time finding a place to put those feelings, we don't know what they experience in their daily life. Maybe they are bashed all day by the grown-ups around them or don't fit in at school.Also many are so young they don't have the coping skills yet to deal with so many things that life is throwing their way at what seems a younger and younger age. I would hope that they would not come with bad intent and think its funny to hurt others, bash others, but they are young, and hopefully the one's who do, will take the good influence that is offered here and be able to absorb it. I talk to quite a few of the young people here off the forums, yes even a few of "that young hippie group" and they are so different on one to one. SO ...my point is...take what you need and leave the rest. There is nothing wrong with being passionate about your point, there is certainly nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone, but remember that you are talking to another person, and they bring so much in life experience that you can't see on a screen, and that we all can learn from each other. And I love everyone of you, whether you think thats sappy or not, teepi
No Shameless..you're not bad, just set in your ways. There's not a damn thing wrong with that. We all will be sooner or later. As far as your spelling goes..smartasses are a dime a dozen. If you'd rather pick out the misspelled words in a thread than think about the message, then I just can't understand that. Everyone wants to be funny I guess..who knows. And you, by the way, crack me up daily with some of the stuff you say..I personally would love to know you. I would just bet you're hilarious to sit and talk to. Teenagers are just rebellious..hell it hasn't been THAT awful long since I've been there. I didn't realize my mama knew what the hell she was talking about until I turned 23 or 24, and then she died on me. God knows I gave the woman hell though..shew. I went to a Grateful Dead show once, hellbent on going..nothing she said was gonna stop me. I was gone for three days..and she was waiting at the door when I got home. MAD AS HELL too..lol I never even stopped to think about how worried she was, or what had been going through her mind while I was gone. I simply looked at her, rolled my eyes, went to the bedroom and slammed my door. (the mushrooms had me drained, damn!!) I never told her where I was or anything until she got sick with her cancer. We laughed about it sitting on her porch swing. I came clean with alot of stuff during those last three months together..she got a kick out of alot of it. ANYWAY..the point is, teens rebel...they want to be heard. They will not understand, or even want to hear what you say until they can except the fact that they do NOT know everything. Of course, that's not saying older people do..not at all. But they do usually know better, and that's just the way it is.
teepi you make such good scence..I'm glad there are one like you to put things in a better prospective.. I should be more gentel and understanding to the younger ones.. I am to a lot of them..I will try to be more tolerent..and not so opinionated..I'm willin' to work together..but I will stand up for my rights.. I love ya teepi.. thanks for the wakeup sweetie
sugarmaggie.. what a darlin' you are.. thank you for the moral support.. I love the kids.. I just think I come on too strongly at times.. but it's only because I do care.. I love ya maggie.. I hope everything works out for you today..didn't you say ou were speaking with a lawyer today..good luck.. ((((Maggie))))
CANNED HEAT; LET'S GET TOGETHER TOGETHER WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL COME ON NOW PEOPLE AND WORK TOGETHER COME ON COME ON LETS WORK TOGETHER NOW NOW BABY BECAUSE TOGETHER WE WILL STAND EVERY BOY AND A GIRL AND A MAN BEFORE WHEN THINGS GO WRONG AS THEY SOMETIMES WILL AND A WON'T YOU TRAVEL AND STAY ON THE PILL LET'S WORK TOGETHER COME ON COME ON LET'S WORK TOGETHER YOU KNOW TOGETHER WE WILL STAND EVERY BOY GIRL WOMAN AND A MAN WELL NOW TWO OR THREE MINUTES TWO OR THREE HOURS WHAT DOES IT MATTER NOW AND JUST LIKE OUR BOSS LETS WORK TOGETHER COME ON COME ON LET'S WORK TOGETHER NOW NOW PEOPLE BECAUSE TOGETHER WE WILL STAND EVERY BOY AND A WOMAN AND A MAN A COME ON WELL NOW MAKE SOMEONE HAPPY MAKE SOMEONE SMILE LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE LIFE WORTHWHILE LETS WORK TOGETHER NOW NOW PEOPLE BECAUSE TOGETHER WE WILL STAND EVERY BOY GIRL WOMAN AND A MAN A YEAH WELL NOW TOGETHER WE WILL STAND EVERY BOY GIRL WOMAN AND A MAN A YEAH Shameless, you are so worthwhile, its great when you throw something out there and get people to thinking...I always read your posts...don't always stay after the shit hits the fan...lol...but I always read and put in a couple of my pennies. I guess I just am in a calm place now after alot of constant, it seemed ,..turmoil. And I do my best to stay in that place, I get my dander riled up at times, but its funny how after you walk away from a heated thing and it has naturally cooled of a great bit, you can come back with a fresh outlook and calmness in your heart. I wish some of the younger people would call each other to task as feverently as they seem to do the older one's though. Maggie, sweetie, I come to this from the other side, I lost my mom when I was 7 and have felt such a loss in my life since then... although I feel her with me everyday. I never got the physical stuff as she was so sick for a long time before she went. But I do have a daughter thats almost 28, she lives in Boston and we talk more now than we ever did. I get to hear all the gory details now, of the things she thought I never knew about (she has a younger brother who used to clue me in to some things)...but she realizes as hard as she tried she's never been able to shock me... They were both great teenagers though, we never had any major catastrophies thank goodness. But I do try to remember my times when I was younger, I had a rough time growing up, and have always been able to relate pretty well to kids I think because of it. Blessings in disguise..lol teepi
I got in w/ my lawyer yesterday..and all went well. (cool that you remembered) He said we can take my ex and hang him at the courthouse at the town square on Saturday..lol Really though..we'll go to court soon..things are looking up. Thank you for your moral support too..life is so hard, it's good to have people encouraging you along the way. Much love to you, Shameless..
Oh Maggie I wanted to also say that you were a blessing to your mother, how nice that near the end of her time here you were able to share such deep things with her. It makes a mothers heart sing when her children trust her enough to take her to their secret places. I'm so happy things are looking up legally for you, the man I was with for 15 years and he was driving the nut car,I admit I was a passenger...lol, has just gotten married. I am so happy for him. He has grown and changed so much. Even though he kept trying to screw me up after I left him, I never took it personally again. He was angry and I knew not in his right mind. I hung in there, never said a bad word about him again. And now we are good friends, he has a great relationship with our kids. Sarah is not his by birth but one of the things I always remembered when he would frustrate me is how he was always good to her and that one thing to focus on helped me with my negative feelings for him.And when i would grit my teeth and be calm in court, and stay calm when it was so hard to be, it started taking the wind out of his sails and he too started calming down. I know its hard sweetie, but you are a strong woman with all kinds of wonderful things in your life and this too shall pass, teepi
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Teepi... This too shall pass...ahh..my very favorite saying in the world. That one sentence has brought comfort to me many times. As long as I can believe that..my spirits will stay high, too. My mama and I got so close after she found out she had cancer. We always were, but we just bonded like never before while she was sick. I took care of her..over my dead body would she have anything to worry about. I wouldn't let her get negative, although I knew in my heart she was dying. Never once cried in front of her. She used to call me at 3am..crying, afraid to die..and she'd say baby just come over and lay down with me for a minute...I'm scared. I'd go every time. She had my dad to help her as well, but they had been married for 38 years when she passed, and he just was not dealing well...everytime he looked at her he cried, it was bad. I had to be the backbone. But she raised me that way..such a fine woman. I remember her crying afer her hair started falling out. I was like ok mama..it's just hair, so we'll go get a wig..or one of those funky wrap things..no big deal. She called me a day later and said..oh hell..let's just shave my head..I'll be damned if I'm gonna let this chemo determine when I'll lose my hair. So we made fun of her shaved head after i shaved it, and she was fine. I was "just laying down with her for a minute" when she took her last breath. Saddest day of my life, and the only thing that could hurt me worse is something happening to my children...I don't even want to think of that. As for the man thing..I hope one day we can be friends like with you. I have spent so many years with him it would be a shame if we couldn't make that happen. He's truly warped, though...drugs have gotten the best of him I'm afraid. I made it my problem and went down with him for awhile..no more though. He still isn't over it, and I just can't deal with him. He has to want to help himself first..nothing I can do there. I just hope he does before it's too late. I love ya Teepi
