Why Would The Lie?

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  1. BtownBlazer

    BtownBlazer Member

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  2. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    I always thought the Pentagon attack was the fishiest part of 9/11. I don't buy into any conspiracy theories though.
     
  3. Eskimo101

    Eskimo101 Banned

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    i think that george bush is an asshole
     
  4. BtownBlazer

    BtownBlazer Member

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    I don't think of it as a conspiracy theory, if you look at the pictures of the aftermath its common sense that a boing 747 didnt hit it. And George Bush is really behind any of this,hes just a puppet.
     
  5. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    "When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

    Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

    The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide — not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage."

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6

    Just throwin' it out there
     
  6. st. stephen

    st. stephen Senior Member

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    conspiracy theorists are just as full as shit as other politicians or people. just like everybody else they have there talking points and over repeated lines (im looking at any one who uses the word sheep to describe a large group of people who they disagree with). the government would lie for more money and power, but they arent lying because they arent smart enough to pull 9/11 off.
     
  7. Vapemaster

    Vapemaster Captain of a sinking ship

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    They are trying to say the plane liquified? Sounds like a load of shit to me.
     
  8. weedwhacker

    weedwhacker TFM Bro!

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    interesting... i'd be interested to hear more arguments from the other side of the spectrum, such as the one drone lore posted
     
  9. BtownBlazer

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    Im not a conspiracy theorists im just a skeptic, dont planes leave wreckage after they crash? What happened to the plane?
     
  10. comfortably_numb9

    comfortably_numb9 an asshole

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    so then what hit the pentagon, did gwb bomb his own governemnts building as an excuse to go to war? and is just so happened to be when two planes that were hijacked by terroist collided into the two towers of the world trade centers and a third crashed outside of pittsburgh, is this all just a quinky dink or was he behind all of those two, and also did he shoot kennedy and pay Booth to shoot lincoln and is he the true force behind the brumuda triangle. really common people
     
  11. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    i think carebears blew up that 1 fifth of the pentagon. im sure they woulda blew up more, but soccer moms started throwing tomatoes and apples and shit at them.

    they did it because they cared... now they dont care, so oil prices are fukt up again
     
  12. Captain Cannabis

    Captain Cannabis Banned

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    All I know is that the main guy in the pentagon had his office switched to the other side of the buildning a few days before it all happened. It was all a setup.

    It was in some documentary, one of the michael moore ones, and in one called loose change too.
     
  13. maxwellthebeagle

    maxwellthebeagle da illest

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    i dont know what to think, i hate thinking about conspiarcies, my brain goes nuts lol. but, this was pretty concrete, and its really interseting... think about the stuff we learn in history books, you think 9/11 conspiracies are gonna be in there? no way. everything could be a coverup... or maybe nothing is a conspiracy and our government is honest, its hard for me to believe but who knows, i'm gonna stop now cause my brain hurts from thinking about all this shit.
     
  14. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    I can see some future textbooks having a parenthetical note about the conspiracy allegations.
     
  15. maxwellthebeagle

    maxwellthebeagle da illest

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    nah i doubt it, is there anything about jfk? the govt is against conspiracy, so theyre not gonna throw that in the textbooks
     
  16. seizedbyanger

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    i never believe in conspiracy theories..

    like this one episode of mythbusters they proved against conspiracy theorists about the moon landing

    go adam savage!
     
  17. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    I wish I had my junior year history book on me, I'm pretty sure it at least said, "JFK was surely shot by Lee H. Oswald" which at the very least implies some uncertainty since "surely" is thrown in there for emphasis.
     
  18. maxwellthebeagle

    maxwellthebeagle da illest

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    yeah most say that, but its only cause he was killed before his trail, so he was technically innocent
     
  19. Astrofabrical

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    What scares me most is that there wont be any parenthetical note in text books. It scares me to think that even though the official truth seems to be horribly flawed and deceitful, we will never get to find out what really hit the Pentagon. The footage will never be released, and I'm sure that the handful of people who actually saw the footage from nearby buildings have been told that they try to leak what really happened, they'll end up down at good ol' Gitmo for endangering Americas national security.

    But luckily, we don't need to worry about any of that because we're in the land of the free!
     
  20. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Personally.. its come and gone and i got better things to think/worry about
     
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