Why San Francisco?

Discussion in 'Flashbacks' started by woodsman, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Hi. I'm new to the forum and I have a question about the old days-

    I'm curious as to why the hippies picked San Francisco as center of their movement. Considering that they could have chosen any city in America (or any city in the world) To be the capitol of the hippie universe, I'm wondering what set San Francisco apart from the other cities, and what made it special to the members of the movement.

    Any light that anyone could shed on this would be appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
  2. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

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    Apparently you've never been there.you've never seen jerry or grace sing in the park otherwise you wouldn't ask.

    Strobe light beam, creates dreams
    Walls move, minds do too
    On a warm San Franciscan night

    Old child , young child
    Feel all right

    On a warm San Franciscan night
    Angels sing, leather wings
    Jeans of blue, Harley Davidson's too
    On a warm San Franciscan night

    Old angel, young angel
    Feel all right
    On a warm San Franciscan night

    I wasn't born there
    Perhaps I'll die there
    There's no place left to go
    San Francisco

    Cops face is filled with hate
    Heavens above
    He's on a street called "Love"
    When will they ever learn?
    Old cop, young cop
    Feel all right
    On a warm San Franciscan night

    The children are cool
    They don't raise fools
    It's an American dream
    Includes Indians too


    I Left My Heart in San Francisco

    Tony Bennett


    The loveliness of Paris seems somehow sadly gay

    The glory that was Rome is of another day
    I've been terribly alone and forgotten in Manhattan
    I'm going home to my city by the Bay I left my heart in San Francisco
    High on a hill, it calls to me
    To be where little cable cars climb halfway to the stars
    The morning fog may chill the air, I don't care

    My love waits there in San Francisco
    Above the blue and windy sea
    When I come home to you, San Francisco
    Your golden sun will shine for me

    http://www.bluesforpeace.com/


     
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  3. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    while i wouldn't dispute the appeal of the city by the bay and it's surrounding regeon, that also just happened, accross the bay, to include the university of california at birkley and down the peninsula aways there was stanford, so you had the intillectual stimuli as well. but i don't think san francisco was so much uniquely picked as uniquely remembered. it was favored by the cream of activist musicians though. many of whome did move there. or settled in other places where the sf area was the closest major city to. but really it DID happen elsewhere, pretty much every major city had something going on. well i wasn't there, in the city i mean, i was living up in the hills of the sierra's, north east of there about 168 miles.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  4. THE GOLDEN STRING

    THE GOLDEN STRING Senior Member

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    it just happend that way they diddnt pick anything
     
  5. THUDLY

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    San Francisco always tolerated outsiders, rebels and artists. The hippies followed the Beats (who, at least, TRIED to be intellectuals).


    San Francisco when I was 20, was heaven on-architectural-earth. To wake up on a 1967-summer-morning, with the lovely bay windows and Victorian buildings crowding in, was heaven enough.

    AH-- THE PEOPLE! They come and mostly go.

    I lived the better part of 2 years in SF, and I always remembered the weather, the houses and the fog and fog-horns.

    They-- ma'am-- are eternal.

    In the key of G-- "I left my heart, in San Francisco, besides the beautiful bay.........
     
  6. thelilhippy

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    that was so nice... i can smell the morning breeze... you just made me all warn inside thinking of jerry wakeing up in the morning with that big smile saying yep this is life. no where else i would rather be
     
  7. Muskrat

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    thudly has a way of puting things, dos'nt he!
     
  8. captseaweed

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    I came and went. How exciting it was. Sunday in the park. The tick tack houses. Charlie Sunblade.
     
  9. Flight From Ashiya

    Flight From Ashiya Senior Member

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    Why San Francisco?......good question!.
    I believe that the beatniks were based there: Allen Ginsburg ,Kerouac,Cassady etc.
    It was a San Francisco Disc Jockey that coined the label:'Hippies' in the early 1960s to describe the newer tribes flowing out of the beatnik movement.
     
  10. Duncan

    Duncan Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It wasn't always what it was, you know. San Francisco had a history of being "bawdy". A lot of the seaport was actually built outward. In the 40s and 50s it was hardly the most liberal place on earth.
    Areas in which artistic expression are allowed to grow and flourish are generally places where counter culture will flock... there are pockets of this in most large cities in the USA (Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC, St Louis, Denver).
    Hard as this may be to believe, San Francisco might also have been a very cheap city to live in back in the day. It's hardly that way now, though :(
     
  11. THUDLY

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    That evil-looking rooster reminds me of the one we had when I was about 10 or 11. We had about 50 hens and everytime I went to collect eggs, the vicious prick would fly in my face, spurring and pecking me.


    This isn't a joke: roosters, some of them, fear nothing.

    One day, my granny called on the phone and told me to pick a fat hen for Sunday dinner; if I beheaded it, she would clean it and cook it.

    I saw my chance!

    I grabbed that evil rooster, chopped it's head off at the killing post with an Army surplus machete and tried to bullshit granny, telling her it was a big hen.

    Nah, she knew better, gave me hell, had to parboil the tough old prick, but we soon had a nicer rooster to replace it.

    As far as I know, the hens didn't miss him.









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  12. Woodpoppies

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    If your going to San Francisco be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
    Great song !! lol
     
  13. Triumph Hurricane

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    Now you need a steel helmet so you can survive a police beating of course L.A police Dept is much better at this.
     
  14. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    There was a confluence of events and people that created the SF scene in the mid 60s. Yes the beats did leave a big mark on the city. Yes, it's a very beautiful place that attracts artists, musicians and free spirits. Yes, it used to be a bawdy port city, once upon a time. It was also a gold rush city. So that means lots of houses of ill-repute, which attracts those who don't think conservatively.

    But the things no one has mentioned are the proximity to Berkeley, where the free-speech movement and protests against the establishment got widespread publicity. The liberal atmosphere of the campus attracted many young radicals, way before other campuses got into protesting.

    A guy named Stanley Owsley, aka Bear, (with whom I recently corresponded - he turned down an interview), brewed up a primo batch of LSD-25 which was widely distributed in the SF area and turned on thousands of hip people.

    Lastly California is the place that the German hippies came to in the 1930s spreading their teachings of raw food, nudism, organic food, communal living, back-to-nature, fasting, etc. Many of their disciples, including Gypsy Boots made his way from LA to SF bringing with him their teachings and spreading them among such notables as Jerry Garcia and friends.

    I for one have always been astonished at the events that took place there starting with the acid tests (which Kesey also brought to LA, attracting more ppl to SF). To me it was the first lifting of the veil in the US and nothing would ever be the same afterwards.

    Those who dropped acid became instant siblings of the psychedelic revolution.
     
  15. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

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    the best acid did come from berkely,i stopped in the 80's,but even then i was getting the liquid down from Berkeley.There was a group in and around the thirties that lived in the dunes around pismo beach.They became known as dunnies,possibly your germans.I know there was one german guy who lived out at giant rock for years.Giant rock is a record size free standing boulder for what thats worth.He had a dugout underneath.Perhaps these are the german "hippies"you speak of.i'd never put it together before until i read your post and it sorta clicked.Thanks for the post.Verry interesting.
     
  16. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

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    LA cops motto:We'll treat you like a King
     
  17. Triumph Hurricane

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    Too Bad Hitler did not fallow those german hippies ideas .
     
  18. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

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    ain't nothing til you've met a mad osterich.Chickens don't kick...
     
  19. gate68

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    hitler in a micro bus,with a big grin,flashing a peace sign...hitler at a nude beach...der furer tripping on owsley
     
  20. gate68

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    For Free
    by Joni Mitchell


    I slept last night in a good hotel
    I went shopping today for jewels
    The wind rushed around in the dirty town
    And the children let out from the schools
    I was standing on a noisy corner
    Waiting for the walking green
    Across the street he stood
    And he played real good
    On his clarinet for free

    Now me I play for fortunes
    And those velvet curtain calls
    I've got a black limousine
    And two gentlemen
    Escorting me to the halls
    And I play if you have the money
    Or if you're a friend to me
    But the one man band
    By the quick lunch stand
    He was playing real good for free

    Nobody stopped to hear him
    Though he played so sweet and high
    They knew he had never
    Been on their T.V.
    So they passed his music by
    I meant to go over and ask for a song
    Maybe put on a harmony
    I heard his refrain
    As the signal changed
    He was playing real good for free
     

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