why rap sucks

anyone?

 

everything about it sucks.
everything is about violance, and shooting people and crack, and money.

now classic rock, its the best damn thing ever

 

Sometimes, everyonce in a while I like a good atmosphere song, just to get the drums banging in my head

 

Well, I guess you would agree that all of the following also suck:

"Hey Joe" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience
"Heroin" by Velvet Underground
"Money" by the Beatles

... right?

 

^ uh nah. and are you sure you dont mean pink floyd-money

 

No, I meant the Beatles. Pink Floyd's "Money" is different--more like social criticism. The one I referred to is more materialistic. "Hey Joe" is about a violent crime, and "Heroin" is about doing drugs. So I don't know what "uh nah" is supposed to me.

 

"Money" was actually first done by Barrett Strong. The Beatles covered it. But I like the point you're making. If you look at the history of black music, bragging about materialism is a feature, since (I'd say) the 1940s. If look at early boogie-woogie, then early rock and roll, then soul, and especially James Brown, funk, then rap, there's this underlying idea of pride in possessions. Having said that, I still don't like rap. I think it's MUSICALLY offensive. The sound of it makes my eardrums cry.

 

Depends on how you define rap. Common and Kayne West are really the only two great rappers right now IMO.

 

OMG Nancy, you're posting!!

How are you?

 

You're saying how shit rap is, in the hip-hop forum, surrounded by people who love rap, mmmm.

I'm surprised nobody has said yet how full of shit you muthafuckers are, stuff it up your ass. You can live in your dinosaur age of music, while I broaden my taste in it.

 

Raps cool, it's just its taking a direction for the change. All the young kids getting into it thinking they can mic. But when you put in 2pac, EasyE, BoneThugz, etc thats when your listening to rap.

 

Threads like this are dumb. Let everyone listen to what they want.

 

whoa freakymetalchic, i dont think anyone is denying rap from being played. besides disturbed sucks.

and city wok, ill say rap sucks anyfucking where i want. last time i checked this was hipforums free speech.

anyone else have a problem with me sayin that? you can piss off

 

In the other thread, you said that it should be abolished. Get your story straight.

 

I didn't say that, You can say whatever you want. All I'm sayin is that: Maybe in the Hip-Hop forum is not the best choice, Unless you looking for an arugment of course.

 

yeah in my opinion that is what i think, but who is saying you cant listen to it, i dont care if people listen to it, but i think it sucks and should be done with

 

If it were abolished, then no one could listen to it. If you think that it should be done with, then you think that no one should listen to it.

 

Rap is about crack and violence? Sure, some rap is about it, but you really have no idea what you're talking about. Hiphop and rap music is huge. It has tons of different styles, from instrumental jazz hiphop without actual rapping to acapella freestylers. Ofcourse there's gangster rap, and ofcourse the whole ' urban' style on MTV is nothing more than shallowness, and has strained far away from the roots of hiphop.

Gangster rap, also isn't the ' true' root of hiphop, but it's a part of hiphop that grew to it's own level. It started with often poor people in the bad neighborhoods in big cities, and the government stopped funding music-classes in their schools. As we all know, music is a great way of spending time, playing, listening, writing music, it's good for the mind, basically.

So the youth started creating music, without instruments. They would be out in groups, one guy pretending to be a drum kit (which beatboxing originated from, ofcourse), and the other guy rhyming. Playing with words, so called punchlines, funny stories, weird stories in rhyme, everything they dealt with got rhymed in their hiphop.

Ofcourse they would challenge eachother, and try to make jokes about ther opponents, so that they could show tjhey were the best rappers.

As a lot of youngsters were lacking the possibility to actually graduate at highschool or college, criminal ratings rose. And ofcourse, that would be another subject they would rap about.

Now you have hundreds of styles, and most people don't see a lot of depth in hiphop.
They see someone rhyming, and then another guy rhyming as well, and the ' beat' doesn't change a lot so it's boring. But actually the major instrument in hiphop is your voice, the beat is, as it originally was, just there to lead the rapper, and he adapts his rhyme to the beat.

Rap boring? No way, it's about attitude, delivery, flow, articulation, wordplay, vocavulary, does he use full-rhymes or just rhyme sounds etc.

And ofcourse, there's nothing wrong with disliking hiphop, but if you say that you hate it and then say because it's about coke and crack and violence, then you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

In this thread in the heavy metal forum, you said the thread was about rap, not to bring other stuff into it like hiphop.
Now you're saying Disturbed sucks in this thread. They're not rap...
So your point?

 

Rap and hiphop are basically the same. Wikipedia even transfers you to hiphop when you look up 'rap' as a genre.

And yes Disturbed is pretty awful, but that's a different subject.