Why is heroin so scathed by even the most promising of recreational drug users?

Everyone seems to have their own vice these days, whether it's alcohol, cigerettes, oxys, cocaine, mushrooms, dmt, ketamine, whatever it is,drugs are plentiful and a large majority of us enjoy them recreationally. But still there is some sort of stigma about heroin. Any drug can be abused, but alot of the drugs we use can be beneficial to us in small doses. As long as a person isn't addicted to a substance, it doesn't interefere with their lives and they are in reasonably good health why should it matter. This isn't an I'm right you're wrong thread, the reason i'm posting is I want to know what you have against heroin, or what your view is. I just want to understand your way of thought.

I know that Heroin has earned a reputation for itself, alot of people have died using. I just find hilarity in the fact that, you can be in a room full of cocaine/meth/acid or whatever it is/ users and when someone sais they enjoy using heroin. (hypothetically here alright) and it doesn't stop them from accomplishing great things in life and they enjoy the high the room is silent. Heroin he/she says....really?.......But I heard this, and this and this happens. OH FOR SURE I know FOR SURE try it once you're done, you can never go back from it. You should stay away from that man, it's bad for you. You could get sick...or better yet you could even die, it's bad.

It just seems like a load of bullshit. You can die on alot of recreational substances but heroin is feared and disgusting to alot of you.
I don't get it.
I realise that this substance is highly addictive and it comes with consequences but for good reason. It's apparently the perfect high.

I just want to hear what you have to say. Flame on if you want.

 

Before I answer the question you need to answer:

How long have you been shooting Heroin?

 

I haven't.

 

I think heroin's stigma is a result of many factors.

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  It has physically addicting qualities that most of those you listed do not.

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  The method of administration most commonly associated with heroin is injection which has a stigma of it's own, not saying some of those others can't be but usually it's not the most commonly reported ROA for them.

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  It can be adulterated very easily.

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  There have realistically been many more cases of people going down hill and overdoses from heroin then all of those mentioned maybe with the exception of alcohol but the number of heroin users is far less than that of alcohol users.

Personally I am not disgusted or think much differently about heroin use than cocaine, meth, or ketamine. It is not a substance I will support someone using though.

 

Any drug can be used respobsibly or irresponsibly. Heroin is no exception.

 

You seem interested so I'll try and do my best to explain.


Heroin is terrible because of the way it changes an addict. The physical symptoms of heroin SUCK. The fact that you can accidentally kill yourself with it a lot easier than other drugs is a certain fear; but these aren't the reasons why heroin is hated.

Addicts are mentally changed by heroin addiction. The urge to use heroin rules above all other urges that I have ever experienced in my life; and those urges will remain probably with many ex-addicts for the rest of their lives. Remember this, a heroin addict is driven by their urge to get high. An addict will do what is within they're reach to get high. Coning cheating and stealing become a lot easier to stomach when you're a heroin addict who runs out of dope. You're entire focus in life becomes getting high, how you're going to get high, when you're going to get high, what you're going to do when you get high, how you're gonna hide the fact that you're high, how you're gonna deal with the fact that you just overdrew your account by 200 bucks so you could get high, how your gonna deal with knowing that you now can't even afford your diabetes medication because you are -200 in the hole since getting high was more important than anything else at that point in your life, etc etc etc.. its what you think about when you wake up, its what you're doing half the day when you're trying to cop - you're entire life begins to revolve around the drug - THAT is why heroin FUCKING sucks. To make matters worse, heroin addiction controls addicts and keeps them addicted. A vicious cycle, if you will.

I've used heroin and have had a hard time kicking it, but haven't blown my life away on it. Its not a one shot BOOM you're life is fucked kind of thing. I have however dropped out of school, spent thousands of dollars, lost the respect of family members and mentors and university professors. I've lost jobs, time, money, respect, and it was never worth it. But all the while I was doing it? I loved it - it was great- I lived it up, but looking back? I was a fucking loser. Now I have a job, am saving money, getting ready to go back to school. I'm really happy again, and not artificially drug happy.

I've watched my friend throw his life away on the needle. He went to rehab, detoxed, got counseling. When he got out he was so excited to be clean he called every one of his user friends (including me) and told us how happy he was to be clean, and how he recommended rehab to everyone. FOUR HOURS LATER he was at it harder than ever, coping enough baGs so that he could start using more than he ever had.

Someone else I know. I called him one night to try and see if he could help me cop. His mom had been sick for a while, she had a brain tumor. He said they rushed her to the hospital that night and they said she was gonna die. He said he was having a hard time dealing with it and left the hospital and his dying mother to try and go cop. To me that is revolting unnatural human behavior; but it's not because he's a bad human being, he's not - he loved his mom. His behavior was caused by the mind control of the opiate - nothing becomes more important to the user than getting high. Its a powerful drug, not because it can knock you on your ass, but because it can ruin your life before your eyes while you sit back with scabs on your arms staring at coat hangers wondering what the fuck happened.

DON'T DO IT. DON'T LET YOUR FRIENDS DO IT.

 

I personaly only use mind opening drugs.. (and I guess alchohol and oxys) I wouldn't trust myself to do coke/speed/heroin. I don't really have issues with other people doing them, but too many of my hero's have died from heroin for me to even consider it.

Coincidently, I don't know anyone whose been killed by weed/acid/shroomz.

 

i look at a drug as it truely is, that being said i don't look at all drugs and think they are fine and dandy besides herion.

herion is the worst and most revolting of them all IMO but close behind are drugs like meth or coke that i still would not do.

i'm not saying that if you take herion once your life is over, but do you really think herion addicts or ex addicts went into it thinking that they were going to become a herion addict, no, it could happened to anybody and i would never take that chance.

 

In November I was given morphine for 5 days while in the hospital. After that experience, I would not ever consider doing anything like that voluntarily for recreation.

 

I have never used heroin,and I'm definitely not for drug abuse of any kind, but I believe that heroin is perhaps the most unjustly demonized illicit drug.

It is a fact that pure pharmaceutical heroin when taken in proper dosage with sterile equipment is an extremely benign drug and causes little deleterious effect on the user.

Street heroin however, due to it's unknown purity, certainly has the potential to cause harm. leaving aside aids, hepatitus and many other diseases caused by dirty needles and impure heroin, the main deleterious effect is that of malnutrition due to the cost of maintaining the addiction...addicts spend nearly all their money on dope and little on nutritious sustenance. Malnutrition alone leads to myriad diseases...

In Dr.Dean Edell's book " Eat drink and be merry; Americas Dr. tells why health experts are wrong" he puzzles why alcohol, a drug that causes agitation and depression, is legal. Yet heroin, a drug that relaxes and uplifts users, and in controlled doses actually permits addicts to live productive lives, is illegal. If those predisposed to drug addiction could readily obtain narcotics from physicians, there would very likely be less child abuse and lower unemployment.

The good Dr. also once said on his radio show that compared to cigarettes getting off Heroin was like coming off a bad cold. :coffee:

 

Sorry I don't buy this what so ever. I don't think the good doctor has sustained much of a heroin addiction in his life. You can be a heroin addict in Philadelphia for 20$ a day. A snack wrap is $1.39.

 

Hardened addicts given free heroin in secret NHS trial

The aim is to cut drug-related crime
Supporters say it is cost-effective




Action on Addiction, a research charity, is helping to oversee the pilot scheme. Nicky Metrebian, a researcher for the charity who has examined the Swiss and Dutch schemes, said: “There is evidence to suggest that there is a potential role for the medicalised prescribing of inject-able opiates in supervised injecting clinics as a last resort for hard-to-treat heroin addicts.
“Action on Addiction’s scientific study will test whether this treatment is effective in reducing illicit heroin use, improving health and reducing criminal activity among a particular group of hard-to-treat heroin users.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article646418.ece

 

Its the way the drug is used that makes it harmful, that and how its sought after once hooked on it..
Heroin is a beautiful drug, and so is Chloroform.. but you cant be doing that shit all the time.. It will fuck you up.

 

How many snack wraps does a person need to stay healthy?... besides that's another 1.39 towards your next fix.

Look man, for most folks drug addiction is a choice. If you want to be a slave to a drug, that should be your choice, not something that makes you a criminal. For those hardcore addicts that seem to lack the endorphines or whatever to deal with real life and find relief in opiates, I would rather them be at home with their cheap (or free)Government dispensed and doctor prescribed dope than out on the street scheming whatever crime to get money for a fix.

 

The solution of the America wasting money on the war on drugs is funding and supporting a drug addicted America? No thanks.

 

I'm really glad you guys started responding to this thread. It's nice to see opinions backed up by facts. The more information you can share on why it is you dislike heroin, or believe it is worse then all the other drugs, or why you believe it's acceptable the better.

 

This book sounds incredibly interesting,I might just pick it up.

 

This is gibberish. What is your point?

 

I love your username!

 

Sorry about that gibberish up there, I'm fucking blasted. I fixted it.

You've never tried heroin before and thus you're point of view is fucked. You claim heroin is unjustly demonized... that's not a claim that someone who has never shot heroin can make. Until you feel the effects of heroin, the ups and downs, you just don't know how bad it really is. Heroin addicts are not functioning members of society.

You support heroin being distributed by doctors to patients so that society no longer has to worry about the harm done to addicts and (and indirectly to non addicts) by street heroin (right?). Yet, again, from your point of view - as someone who has never tried heroin - that is not a suggestion that you should be making. The end result would be tax funded (yay we get to pay for people to get high?!) drug addicted jobless losers, NOT healthy people who like to catch a buzz once and a while. Heroin addiction is a TWENTY FOUR SEVEN job, not a weekend hobby.