Why is Cuba shedding it's communist policies?

Another one bites the dust. Cuba is abolishing it's system of equal pay for all workers. They claim that the current system "... is no longer convenient".

President Raul Castro has introduced a series of reforms since succeeding his ailing brother Fidel in February.

Great quote here: "It's harmful to give a worker less than he deserves, it's also harmful to give him what he doesn't deserve,".

They have also been lifting bans on phones and computers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7449776.stm

 

Because communism sucks.

 

I think it has more to do with the fact that there are more profits to be made by the unscrupulous under capitalism.

 

I think it's because people are sick of driving cars made in the 1950s.

 

Because the know the US wont drop the embargo unless Cuban's submit to the will of a foreign government.

 

You think Raul is more "unscrupulous" than Fidel?

And trying to fix them with parts from the 40's
Did anyone happen to watch the documentary on Cuba where they showed a "mechanic" an older man in his 50's relining old brake shoes "for the government" with asbestos, he was covered head to toe with it and of course no mask or "protective" clothing. Its a must see, i"ll try to find that particular show and post a link if anyone is interested.

Do you think Cuba has "submitted" to the wills of the other 194 foreign governments that don't have an embargo on Cuba ?

I'll give you a hint, It soon started after "?" became ill.


47% of Americans still favor continuing the embargo, 40% favor ending it.

Personally, i've been against the Embargo since day 1,
but on the other hand, with Cuba's close proximity to the US it wouldn't be long before it was turned into a
"Las Vegas - Disney World" themed Island.

 

I'm not really sure what your asking... Cuba is under embargo because of their convoluted history together. I see no reason for the embargo other than the fact that the people of Cuba kicked out the American puppet government. And the United States is punishing them in this way.

What I intended my first statement to mean was that Cuba is caving under the economic pressure applied by the US. The US wants them to be democratic.

 

What about all of the American property Castro Nationalized?

And then there was that missile thing

 

Could be they are caving in under the economic failures of communism ??

I know, its easier to blame America.

Just one of many who want it for Cuba.

 

Who knows, it's version of Communison never really got a chance to get started... it began well enough and then no one had parts to fix the tractors, cars, or anything else.

It's not easy for me. I love my country. But it is all about America.

When you are the #1 world superpower, what do you think will happen when another country trys to support something the superpower doesn't like...

Thats exactly what happened in the missile crisis. Russia begins to help out Cuba and we squelch it. Now although I agree that that incident needed to be dealt with, because I would like to see the end of the proliferation of nuclear arms, America's embargo ensured that the Castro government would fail in the long run.

Funny that people forget that the people of Cuba didn't want democracy in the first place, and that one man is not a revolution.

 

Yea. What about all that American property on Cuban soil that was nationalized?

 

Why did 100's of thousands of them leave as soon as Castro came into power, and a million more since then ?

Lol , ok .

How can it began well,, when they couldn't think that far in advance "2 or 3 years" it was doomed from day 1.

And tractor parts were the least of their problems

Even tho they had the full support of the #2 superpower, not to mention the rest of the world ??

? You don't think that has anything to do with the Embargo.

 

LMFAO ROFL, I guess for the the same reason the rest of the 10 million must have stayed. "The exodus that occurred immediately after the Cuban Revolution was primarily of the upper and middle classes that were predominantly white" ~wiki

They had the entire revolution and the aftereffects planned out for the most part... this is detailed in a lot of the writings of Castro and Che and included in several of their biographies as well as some JFK biographies...Actually tractor parts and such things where the biggest problems. Because they were blocked from importing any heavy machinery, eventually all the machines they had broke and they were unable to create an industrialized nation with a future.

Who gives a shit who the number 2 power is when your trying to go up against the #1. Russia was no match for America, they pulled their missiles out of Cuba, even though at the same time period the US had placed missiles in areas such as Turkey. Russia knew it didn't have the power anymore to defy the US. And we both the know the rest of the world means nothing to the US when making decisions... like how the rest of the world except for Britian Poland and Armenia did not want to support America invading Iraq...

The american property they seized and nationalized in Cuba was on Cuban soil in the country of Cuba. When the American revolution happened do you think we gave the British back their tea? Come to think of it... the British owned all of New England....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba

 

Btw as of 2000 the are this many Cubans in America total.
Total population
Cuban
1,241,685 Americans
0.4% of the US population (2000)

 

Yea, and they are ALL pleased with how things are going, sure.
Not everyone can swim 90 miles.

But, somehow they were able to get missiles and missile launchers in.And all the heavy equipment needed to build an support launch sites.

The climax period of the crisis began on October 15, 1962, when United States reconnaissance photographs taken by an American U-2 spy plane revealed missile bases being built in Cuba, and ended two weeks later on October 28, 1962, when President of the United States John F. Kennedy and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement with the Soviets to dismantle the missiles in Cuba in exchange for a no invasion agreement and a secret removal of the Jupiter and Thor missiles in Turkey.~wiki.

Thats a whole other thread there, "did not want"
, but did ? 34 in all .

I did not know that(peter griffin voice)

Therefore, kewl?

We gave it back to them "before" the Revolution.
Hell'a party, sorry you missed it :cheers2:

 

Anyone ever consider why we house our war criminals on Cuban soil.

 

1.2 million out of 12 million-+? not to mention the thousands"possibly 10's of thousands" that didn't make it.

The USA isn't their only choice.

 

Try not to take this too far off topic,

 

Are you pleased with everything thats going on in your country? I guess the point is that there seems to be a majority of people that are content with their country and the leaders they supported.. this was a people's revolution remember?

um... they couldnt get the heavy equipment they needed after the blockade and embargo.... or the parts..when it all broke there was nothing to do.. no industry..

So your confirming that we had missiles near the Soviets first and then we were surprised when the Soviets wanted to put them in Cuba?
Btw.. Russia did not give it's entire support to Cuba, in some ways because of the adoption of certain Chinese Communist principles in the Cuban Communist Government System.

As of August 23, 2006 (I couldn't find the most recent right now.), there were 21 non-U.S. military forces contributing armed forces to the Coalition in Iraq. These 21 countries were: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.

For the purposes of this tally, only countries that contribute troops as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom are counted.

Countries which had troops in or supported operations in Iraq at one point but have pulled out since: Nicaragua (Feb. 2004); Spain (late-Apr. 2004); Dominican Republic (early-May 2004); Honduras (late-May 2004); Philippines (~Jul. 19, 2004); Thailand (late-Aug. 2004); New Zealand (late Sep. 2004); Tonga (mid-Dec. 2004) Portugal (mid-Feb. 2005); The Netherlands (Mar. 2005); Hungary (Mar. 2005); Singapore (Mar. 2005); Norway (Oct. 2005); Ukraine (Dec. 2005); Japan (July 17, 2006); Italy (Nov. 2006); Slovakia (Jan 2007).

Countries planning to withdraw from Iraq: Poland had earlier claimed that it would withdraw all soldiers by the end of 2006. It however extended the mandate of its contingent through at least mid-2007. Denmark announced that it would withdraw its troop contingent by August 2007.

Countries which have recently reduced or are planning to reduce their troop commitment: South Korea is planning to withdraw up to 1000 soldiers by the end of 2006. Poland withdrew 700 soldiers in Feb. 2005. Between May 2005 and May 2006, the United Kingdom reduced the size of its contingent by 1,300. The United Kingdom also is planning to reduce significantly the size of its contingent by the end of 2007, with an initial reduction of 1,600 troops followed by an additional 500 troops by end of 2007.

Countries supporting UNAMI: Fiji (150); Georgia (550)

Then why did you ask me if I thought it had anything to do with the embargo? Cool? It's their country!

Seems to me, I remember the colonist seizing it and destroying it... seems like after the revolution we "nationalized" all the property of the British in North America. Haha.

 

Why do we house our war criminals on foreign soil gardener?