who's your favourite idiot/s in history?

who's your favourite idiot/s in history?


mines margaret thatcher and the george bush cabal

calligula and nero would be good candidates

His northern campaigns are derided, with accounts of Gauls dressed up as Germans at his triumph, and Roman troops ordered to collect sea-shells as "spoils of the sea" and indicative of his victory against Neptune

his habit of roaming the halls of his palace at night ordering the sun to rise. He also named his horse as a priest and gave it a house to reside in, complete with a marble stable, golden manger, and jeweled necklaces; and he later talked of making his horse a member of the Senate (most likely a joke on the senate's part)

Caligula was known to be excessively proud of the size of his penis, and would frequently display it at public games, or he would masturbate for everyone to see.

 

hell yeah!

 

The Marquis de Sade. He kept letting himself get caught writing his stories when he could've easily writting under a nom de plume and been fine. I think he enjoyed that people knew HE wrote them.

 

Um.

Hitler?

 

My vote is for George W. Bush, can't really say he's my favorite, but he's the first "true idiot" that came to mind...............Dennis.........Alaskan

 

Joe Stalin (Iosef Dzugashivili) comes to mind. Does it make since to speak of an intelligent idiot? Perhaps he was more evil than stupid. At any rate I feel sorry for the Russian and other nations who were saddled with his murderous dictatorship for thirty years (1923-1953).

 

you gotta be kidding me... Hitler was anything but an idiot.

 

He was smart, I know, but I think killing people simply because they are not of the Aryan race is just plain idiotic.

I'd like to add Von Schleiffen too!

 

He might have been insane thinking that he could better the human race by making a perfect race w/o mental disabilitys and all that, but being insane is a lot different than being an idiot. He wasa genius, he was just fuckin crazy as hell...

 

first person to drink milk. (only joking, it was probably out of desperation. but what if it wasn't??)

 

to the earlier posters-i suppose that all depends on your definitions of insanity and stupidity.

 

Nixon - not a crook
DB Cooper - yeah, jump from the plane man
Jerry Lewis - his idiot act is classic

just a start of the great idiots!

 

Martha Stewart

 

machiavelli. (sp?)

bastard.

 

Honorable mention:
Walter Raleigh
Raleigh introduced tobacco, and tobacco cigarettes, to Europeans.

 

What about that Dutch guy who let his design for the first burglar alarm get stolen. But that's more like irony.

BTW: I wouldn't call Walter Raleigh stupid... By making tobacco popular in Europe he gave the faltering and non-profitable Jamestown colony a good cash crop and a great source of revenue. And it's not like the 17th Century Raleigh had any idea of tobacco's harms. In fact it was considered quite healthy for centuries.

 

Strictly speaking, 'idiot' refers to someone with a very low level of mental function. No one famous, today or yesterday, meets this definition.
So let's just say that Raleigh was not stupid, that he did introduce this cash crop to Europeans, and that today, three centuries or so later, people are not only addicted to it, but these slimebags (smokers) are polluting the air I have to breathe with their filth.
You think Pablo Escobar was a threat, with his cocaine? I don't have to daily breath cocaine fumes whether I like it or not.

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To the lady who nominated Martha Stewart:​

Nothing dumb about Martha. With her brains and my looks, we could go a long way. This is a very classy lady.​

 

my favorite idiots were mostly behind the scenes and anonimous, as we don't really know as much about individual personalities as it generaly suites propiganda purposes of nearly all flavors.

i will say the stupidest thing humanity as a whole has ever done was to combine automobiles with cities. although the gratuitous and unredeaming beligerance that created soverign hierarchies was, of course, a precursor to the cities themselves.

the only bennifit of social organization is infrastructure, and of course the 'comfort zone' we've come to take for granted and feel dependent on is based upon infrastructure. but while infrastructure requires social organization, social organization does not in turn require hierarchy and the gratuitous beligerance, that in turn is based upon.

certainly no one rises to political power, unless they are both a saint and pretty much of a social genius, without becoming in some sense insanely corrupted by it.

what is a leader, that is to say someone who chooses to be, but a beligerant ass?
and what in the hell do we need them for?
quite simply, other then outward collective austentations, we don't.

there have been defacto leaders, the tineyest minority even of them, who have truely been honest, humble, damd near saints, as close to it as anything human ever becomes. few if any of them ever wielded real political power themselves, but rather served as a rallying point and example that by doing so enabled the commonality of people to overcome the demigogary by which human history has been and continues to be plagued. and again by far they are fewer then the idiots historians recognize.

90% of everything, asserted ted sturgeon, is crap. the remaining 10%, it is my own corrilary, does its damdest to make up for it. but when it comes to 'political leadership', the ratio is more like 99% to 1.

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Nothing personal, Themnax, but I'm just wondering if you could get your spelling right. A dictionary is not a big ticket item.
I'll have to look up this Ted Sturgeon fellow. He wouldn't be a Republican Congressman, by any chance?

 

I really don't understand what you are trying to say. You don't like smokers today, so you are blaming the guy who introduced smoking to Europeans 400 years ago? And where did the whole cocaine thing come from?

I can't understand if you're trying to refute my statement or just bitching about smokers...