White non-muslim women wearing the Hijab?

I think the hijab(sp) is very beautiful, but i am a white, christian girl. would it be considered rude or disrespectful for me to wear one as a fashion statement once in awhile? or would i get my ass kicked?

 

i dont think you would get your ass kicked ........but what kind of fashion statement is it ....do you believe the mohammed was a prophet ?

its a bit like wearing lets say a nuns habit or a nazi uniform people would think you support what the uniform stands for

I have a great arab prince outfit that was given to my father for me in saudi when I was little, its much to small for me now, but I would only wear that for a fancy dress party not walking around the streets .

 

No you wouldnt but you would get greeted alot by muslims

 

do it. i think those robes are sexy

 

Johnny you are an utter idiot. You are the Nazi of ignorance. I think that is quite pathetic that people like him associate scarves with only Muslims.


Retro Fishie dont listen to him. Of course you can put a scarve on your head. I wear them and I am not Muslim. When I am having a bad dread day I put on a beautiful scarf. Many women all over the world wear head scarves and not Muslims. It is just a piece of cloth to decorate your head. That is how I see it. Women in India, Russia, Nepal, Europe,etc wear them. It is often apart of traditional dress of some culture, or has a symbolic meaning. Certain colors, how it is styled etc.
No you would not get your assed kick, only if you saw Johnny2mad and he thought you were a Muslim. Also it would not be disrespectful. I think that it would be more beautiful and respectful in a Muslim eyes because you can actually look past the hatred of people like Johnny2mad who assciate it with terrorism/hate and able to understand why Islamic women cover their hair.

 

in many cases islamic women wear these "scarfs" because if they dont they get the hell beat out of them

so you have physical violence or brainwashing by a fake nasty religion as the main reasons these scarfs are being worn
if thats what this girl wants to support thats up to her

I have never advocated beating up random muslims Ive personally had death threats off muslims I know people who have been attacked by muslims for being critical of their religion

 

Women (and men) enjoy freedoms in the west which we pretty much take for granted. For non-muslim women to wear the Islamic style hijab seems to me to be an exercise of such freedom, which they wouldn't have in most Islamic countries. And they're free to take it off - go out alone in only shorts and a bikini top. That wouldn't go down well in Saudi!

A headscarf could look good, but probably best not in Islamic style.

 

"Why do Muslim women wear the hijab?"
Eighteen year old Canadian Muslimah Sumayyah Hussein explains. (Followed by discussion points for young people.)
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I am sitting in my first-period class impatiently waiting for the teacher to stop babbling about monomials and polynomials. When the bell rings, a girl approaches, her face forming a question mark. She wonders if it's okay to ask a "personal" question...
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"Why do Muslim women wear the hijab?"
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It's not the first time this has happened and it is certainly an issue that needs to be addressed.
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One of the major misconceptions about the hijab (covering of the body except the face and hands) is that young women are forced to wear it by their parents or by male family members.
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Sumayya Syed, 16, says that what parents or men want have nothing to do with it. In fact, she astounds people who ask by saying that every woman should have this form of liberation.
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Syed maintains that when a woman is covered, men cannot judge her by her appearance but are forced to evaluate her by her personality, character, and morals. "I tell them that the hijab is not a responsibility, it's a right given to me by my Creator who knows us best. It's a benefit to me, so why not? It's something every woman should strive to get and should want."
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The young woman admits to being surprised that many people wonder if she wears the hijab everywhere (at home, when sleeping, in the shower). The truth is that Muslim women only cover themselves in front of men who are not direct relatives (brothers, fathers, and uncles) to prevent indecent acts or thoughts.
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Another young woman who wears the hijab, Zeinab Moallim, 18, maintains that some people assume that all Muslims who wear the traditional dress are immigrants who don't know English and perceive them as "weirdos".
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"I remember in my class when I answer questions, some students look at me like I'm kind of dumb and I can't answer (them)," she says. "So usually I answer, just to let them know I can do things."
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All of the young women interviewed agreed that the advantages of wearing the hijab are many. According to Rema Zawi, 16, "You feel modest...and you feel like you're covered up. You have more self-respect. You have more confidence in yourself that you don't need to care about (how) you look."
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Syed emphasizes that a major plus is that people actually evaluate her on who she is and not on her beauty or clothing. "It keeps me protected from the fashion industry. The hijab liberates you from the media, brainwashing you into, Buy this, buy that, you're supposed to look like this," she says. "It allows me to be who I am. I don't have to worry about being popular through buying things that are 'cool'."
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Hana Tariq, 15, who just recently began wearing the hijab, agrees with Syed's view and says that the hijab lets you know who your real friends are.
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"People who are friends with you because of the way you look aren't real friends. And people who judge you by your personality are true friends, because people can change looks but they don't really change personalities."
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The young women said the hijab provides them with an identity. They don't have to tell people they are Muslims. It shows.
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However, there are drawbacks. Mariam Hussein, 18, was in a store minding her own business, when an old woman came up to her and proclaimed loudly, "Go back to your country!" It was a difficult situation because the young woman considers Canada her home.
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Responses to the hijab vary widely. Zawi is one of the few Muslim girls in her school who wears the traditional Muslim garb. She says some students treat her differently by looking at her in strange ways or vandalizing her property. However, she also finds that other students have questions for her regarding the hijab.
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"I find that it's so hard for them to ask because they're really shy, so I confront them. I tell them, If you want to know anything, just talk to me." One young woman's first year at Silverthorn Collegiate was especially difficult. A counsellor was looking at her English marks from previous report cards, and said she found them "impressive". But then she made a comment that hurt. "Well, it's obvious you don't need ESL," she said.
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The counsellor made the assumption that since the young woman wore the hijab, she had just emigrated and needed to take English as a Second Language. Syed, who attends a school with a fairly large Muslim population, says the people she knows treat her with dignity and the comments she gets from friends and classmates are generally not disrespectful.
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"Most people in my life respect me with my hijab: they don't swear around me, they don't crack bad jokes," she says.
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Some people may think that the more a woman covers, the less freedom she has. But, according to Muslim tradition, it is actually the opposite. The less she wears, the more she is degraded and the more she is put in the line of fire of male criticism.
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Syed is astonished at the behaviour of some women who claim to want "freedom". She can't understand how going topless, for example, represents equality. "People have to understand that we (males and females) are not equal in body image but we should be equal in rights, in justice. Taking off your shirt will not make you equal to a man; it'll make you lower. Why? Because the woman's body is created differently."
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Amani Elkassabany, 30, who is not presently wearing the hijab, has a different view. She applauds those who wear the hijab (especially those who wear it for God and with good intentions), but feels that it is not necessary to wear the hijab to gain respect.
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"Just because a woman covers, doesn't mean she is automatically entitled to respect, or has already proven the worth of her mind. Respect must be earned regardless of one's appearance and it is not earned through a dress code alone."
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Elkassabany sees advantages to wearing the hijab, but thinks that having internal modesty is more important than external modesty. "This external covering is really just a reflection of an inner commitment to dedicate oneself to the worship of the Creator," she comments.
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She is also concerned about the restraints wearing the hijab implies, restraints that are exclusive to women. "Both men and women are required to dedicate themselves to God, but it is only women who are expected to demonstrate this dedication outwardly in the form of hijab," she says. "This expectation on the part of [women] is what I find difficult to accept."
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Whether the hijab constrains or liberates women is an ongoing debate. However, statistics reveal that in Western society, women and men are perceived very differently.
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One study, done at the University of California, found that media photographs emphasize the faces of men but the bodies of women. In the average picture of a woman, less than half the photo (45%) was devoted to the woman's face. In the pictures of men, nearly two-thirds (65%) of the photograph featured the man's face.
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The same article reports the results of an experiment conducted with a group of 40 male and 40 female college students. These students were told that a study of freehand drawing styles was under way and were assigned to draw either a man or a woman, capturing "the character of a real person." It was observed that the men drawn had very distinct features, with close attention paid to facial details. However, the images drawn of the women were mostly of the body, with the faces vague or even featureless.
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Perhaps, as women de-emphasize their bodies, this severe imbalance will be at least partially rectified. Meanwhile, Islam provides a solution to this problem - one which dignifies and honours all women.
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hi pple
i came across this web page by chance and well am so glad i did cos it reminded me of the bitter fact that there are many more jonnhy2mads around today...livin with their narrow minded and utterly sick assumtions...

anyway hi retrofishie! let me clear ur doubt first. i love to study abt the different religions..hinduism islam christian...and so on..and i believe that the knowledge i have of these religions will help me clear ur doubt...and of course to clear the misconceptions held by the pple in here....!

retrofishie its perfectly ok to don the hijab..and i understand that u are not a muslim..but its really ok...go ahead..no one will kick ur ass..and if the muslims do in the name of their religion trust me they dont know what their religions teaches them...cos its truly wrong to do that. also like what cosmic butterfly said many non muslim women around the world wear the headscarf as a fashion statement and no one have gotten their asses kicked as yet..i believe. In my ctry non muslims wear the headscarf and the non hindus wear the 'pottu' (the religious symbol that hindus wear on their forehead) and everyone is happy...with no ones ass bein kicked...i believe this due to the respect we have for one another..and for one another's faith...and of course am not at all sure if jonny2mad understands what i mean by RESPECT here for FAITH ..certainly callin any faith/religion nasty shows tat u dont respect it...likin and respectin are 2 dif issues...it doesn meant that if u dont like something u dont respect it. i think it immature..come on wats the dif between a 4 yrs old kid and us adults? THINK and lets pls grow up.

and i agree with u cosmic butterfly... jonny2mad is a nazi of ignorance...but anyway heck it there are just too many jonny2mads around nowadays so i am not really surprised.

anyway so wat made u have such a fear retrofishie? were u ever treated badly by any muslim? if u had any such bad experience i understand why u have such a fear..but let me assure u again..that these 'muslims' who act in such a manner are wrong and that they dont know wat their faith really teaches them...u should be able to draw the line between wats the truth..the reality..the true intended meanin of something and wat u see and hear(which might not be the truth..they are opinions and views) to form ur opinion u have to learn abt the thing first..and not just listen to some jonny2mad blabber ...anyway retrofishie i find it so interestin that u find hijab beautiful...especially since its often associated with oppression by pple like jonny2mad and also with terrorism.

jonny2mad..wateva made u have such assumptions abt muslim women bein forced to don the hijab..i dont know. yes i agree that in islamic ctry women are forced to do certain things...but then again lets not confuse rules in ctry with the intended meanin of any faith..there are also many muslim women who love the hijab..and they are not wearin it as fashion statement..and they are NOT forced..instead they wear it cos they love it...and this cos they know its meanin and they know its true beauty...so why not talk abt these women instead? why just see the women who seem forced to wear the hijab? i too pity them cos they dont get to see the true beauty of hijab as they are forced by their ctry to wear it...i know of many young muslim gals who love the hijab...these gals can choose to wear skirts and wear nice hair assessories when goin out with their frens..i mean which girl doesnt love to flaunt wat she has? but why do these gals choose to don the hijab? love. as simple as that...and oh yeah they come from modern families..and the men in their families didnt force this on them. it was their choice. so maybe u would like to talk abt this grp of pple..lets not be narrow minded and lets see the whole picture.

and jonny2mad u have NO rights to call any religion nasty. i think its really immature...for a min u sounded like an elementry sch kid claimin that all teachers are nasty becos they are strict...sheesh....i understand why u had death threats...if u go around makin such comments..anyone would get angry...try callin christianity or hinduism a nastry religion and see what happens to u..stop bein bais....and what do u know abt islam to make such a claim? i agree that all these terrorist are muslims ..but u cant judge a whole faith by the actions of some muslims. as far as i know no religion preaches violence...everyone comes from dif race and religion....and i think its crucial to respect pple ..everyone...be it a christain a jew or a muslim..respect them and their faith..this is impt to have peace...if u dont like that faith maybe then u should jus zip up instead of bein insensitive....maybe u said it with anger and hatred..and if u did so..wats then the dif between u and the terrorist beheadin the men...both are out of anger and hatred..both hurts and kills..so stop this! lets be sensitive.

io read the article abt "Why do Muslim women wear the hijab?"
i think its interestin....there are so many misconceptions abt islam and hijab...its okie if u want to be ignorant but dont shoot ur mouth in ignorance..know wat u are talkin abt before makin any claim

there are so many unpleasant things goin on around us..and at such a time i think its even more crucial for us to respect one another.

am sorry if i offended anyone..this is just my view

and oh yes i am a muslim. i don the hijab. no one forced it on me. it was my choice. i think its beautiful.

 

Hijab (Veil) and Muslim Women

Ms.Naheed Mustafa ​

"My body is my own business."

MULTICULTURAL VOICES

A Canadian-born Muslim woman has taken to wearing the traditional hijab scarf. It tends to make people see her as either a terrorist or a symbol of oppressed womanhood, but she finds the experience liberating. ​

I often wonder whether people see me as a radical, fundamentalist Muslim terrorist packing an AK-47 assault rifle inside my jean jacket. Or may be they see me as the poster girl for oppressed womanhood everywhere. I'm not sure which it is.




I get the whole gamut of strange looks, stares, and covert glances. You see, I wear the hijab, a scarf that covers my head, neck, and throat. I do this because I am a Muslim woman who believes her body is her own private concern.

Young Muslim women are reclaiming the hijab, reinterpreting it in light of its original purpose -- to give back to women ultimate control of their own bodies.

The Qur'an teaches us that men and women are equal, that individuals should not be judged according to gender, beauty, wealth, or privilege. The only thing that makes one person better than another is her or his character.

Nonetheless, people have a difficult time relating to me. After all, I'm young, Canadian born and raised, university-educated -- why would I do this to myself, they ask.

Strangers speak to me in loud, slow English and often appear to be playing charades. They politely inquire how I like living in Canada and whether or not the cold bothers me. If I'm in the right mood, it can be very amusing.

But, why would I, a woman with all the advantages of a North American upbringing, suddenly, at 21, want to cover myself so that with the hijab and the other clothes I choose to wear, only my face and hands show?

Because it gives me freedom.

WOMEN are taught from early childhood that their worth is proportional to their attractiveness. We feel compelled to pursue abstract notions of beauty, half realizing that such a pursuit is futile.

When women reject this form of oppression, they face ridicule and contempt. Whether it's women who refuse to wear makeup or to shave their legs, or to expose their bodies, society, both men and women, have trouble dealing with them.

In the Western world, the hijab has come to symbolize either forced silence or radical, unconscionable militancy. Actually, it's neither. It is simply a woman's assertion that judgment of her physical person is to play no role whatsoever in social interaction.

Wearing the hijab has given me freedom from constant attention to my physical self. Because my appearance is not subjected to public scrutiny, my beauty, or perhaps lack of it, has been removed from the realm of what can legitimately be discussed.

No one knows whether my hair looks as if I just stepped out of a salon, whether or not I can pinch an inch, or even if I have unsightly stretch marks. And because no one knows, no one cares.

Feeling that one has to meet the impossible male standards of beauty is tiring and often humiliating. I should know, I spent my entire teen-age years trying to do it. It was a borderline bulimic and spent a lot of money I didn't have on potions and lotions in hopes of becoming the next Cindy Crawford.

The definition of beauty is ever-changing; waifish is good, waifish is bad, athletic is good -- sorry, athletic is bad. Narrow hips? Great. Narrow hips? Too bad.

Women are not going to achieve equality with the right to bear their breasts in public, as some people would like to have you believe. That would only make us party to our own objectification. True equality will be had only when women don't need to display themselves to get attention and won't need to defend their decision to keep their bodies to themselves.

Naheed Mustafa graduated from the University of Toronto in 1992 with an honours degree in political and history. She is currently studying journalism at Ryerson Polytechnic University


There are such pple around who love hijab...and these are the people who knows the meanin of HIJAB. If u dont know wat it really means..u have no rights to conderm it either.....it disgusts me that most pple think that showin half the breasts and exposin the legs and wateva is called FREEDOM shessh..talk abt bein narrow minded and ur pereption of freedom is wat can be defined as bein narrow minded.....and condermin without any real knowledge just shows ur own insecurities..and the ugliness in u.

 

All about freedom, eh? Then tell me, what would happen to a woman if she was to walk through the streets of Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Iraq while NOT wearing it?

 

Oh Tom, you need to get your facts straight and really know what is going on.


Iraq: Saddam was actually making Iraq a better country for women. He was fighting a bunch of evil Muslims similar to the Taliban. Now things are actually getting worse for Iraqi women. Did you know that there is actually Christians in Iraq?? Did you know that they and even Muslim women could walk the streets without the hijab. Things have changed for the worse, even the Christians must cover their hair.

Read this at least:http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=5909

http://http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=766

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=6061

http://http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0613/p01s04-woiq.html


Im tired...Ill do Pakistan tomorrow. I actually know a Muslim family from Pakistan here in the valley. Im going to research their freedoms, and call them up. From what I remember Pakistani women are not all Muslims. You have different vedic based religions as well. Women are not forced into covering their hair. Ill find out for sure tomorrow.

 

tom pls get ur facts right....not all the women in pakistan wear the hijab i have been there and i know pple from there....pls stop makin assumptions....u are seein the meanin of freedom from a very very narrow minded way..

 

i think u have mixed up the RULES of a ctry with the real meanin of hijab and why women have to don it...although i am a muslim even i cant agree with most of the things some of the muslim ctry do...and there are many pple(muslims) like me around who feel the same...these rulers in the muslim ctry believe they know it all...and they misuse their authority...and implement what they think is right..and this creates a very very wrong impression of muslims and hijab..and of course our faith..Islam.

personally i think that u should look up and read some really relevant sources..and stop lookin at wats happenin around u to make judements..and as ur mommy says DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER.....there are black sheeps in every religion..and the black sheeps in islam are creatin the wrong impression of islam in everyway possible......the question u asked...abt what happens to a women who walks in the streets of wateva ctry u mentioned...even if they were stoned or beaten..i agree with u ITS WRONG..BUT THEN AGAIN THAT IS NOT WAT ISLAM TEACHES US..those are HUMANS..THE BLACK SHEEPS DOIN IT AND THEY ARE DOIN IT IN THE NAME OF ISLAM..WHICH IS EVEN WORSE....any good muslim will know there is NO COMPULSION IS ISLAM

the logic behind what i am sayin is very very simple tom.
i come from a ctry where i can freely practice islam..there is a Islamic Religious Council here in my ctry which actually guides us..and ensures that nothing comes in the way of our faith..and the muslims WHO PRACTICE ISLAM in my ctry are strong in their faith as much as any other muslim in any other part of the world...however not ALL THE MUSLIM WOMEN don the hijab..PLS NOTE THIS PT....some walk in the streets wearin heavy make up...tops with plungin neckline..mini skirts..which gets shorter day by day tube tops..and everythin else that reveals everythin that guys would love to see...the point i am tryin to make here is...if in Islam..like u say...women are forced to don the hijab..it would have been a BLANKET RULE..MEANIN IT WOULDNT DIFFER FROM CTRY TO CRTRY... in every ctry where there are muslims the women WILL be FORCED to don the hijab...the islamic religious council would have done something abt these muslim women who choose not to wear the hijab by now..u get me?? Hijab IS OUR CHOICE..its a GOD given right to us women..but we shouldnt be forced to don hijab by any tom dick or harry..but most muslim ctry force it on their women..and i def think this is not right..so pls understand the dif....and this is a MAJOR difference.

 

My mother is from Tunisia, and I go back almost every summer to visit my family. In Tunisia, Egypt, Libia, and Morocco women are not forced to wearing hijab. Actually most women don't wear hijab and they are Muslim. You dont get beat up in the streets, and you are free to do whatever you like. My female cousins are English Professors, one is a Marine Biologist, one is a Medical Doctor, and one is a Spanish Proffessor. They drive, they go out, and live a wonderful normal life. Last time I went, we went to the discoteque.

Im just getting so fed up with these silly American's who have never traveled to Arab countries, do not even know Arabs, pulling lies of the internet, and spreading ignorance and hate.

Johnny2Mad and Tom, what is your goal/ Do you want to continue seeing these people as cruel, and unjust monsters? There is Tom, as a Christian doing exactly what Christ had hoped that mankind would not do. Judge not, unless you wished to be judged. There is alot of wonderful people out there and they are not all Christians....

Here you are professing what you think you know about Islam. People that have actually been to those countries, and speak Arabic are telling you different. I personally have direct experience with Arabs, and Islam, and the truth is that Christians are no better than Muslims. They are all human, and they all feel love. Those both believe that God, and Satan(Shaitan) exist.

 

Ive lived in a islamic country my father is arabic speaking I have friends who are muslims and also ex muslims Im british not american

I dislike islam, in our conversations regarding islam you have shown that you really dont know that much about the religion as you disagreed that mohammed had sex with children made people slaves raped and tortured people .

I stated my sources which were all mainline islamic scripture
you were unable to find any scripture to disprove what I said
I think islam at its base is much worse than most people including most western muslims think.

I support a atheist site made up mainly of ex-muslims that puts the case that islam is a extreamly negitive dangerous religion, so far I have not seen a muslim put a good case that disproves what faithfreedom.org has to say.
I dont much like other religions but at the moment if you dislike religion islam is the most powerful target

most atheists seem to concentrate on attacking quite successfully christianity I think its time that islam is given the same treatment

what I suggest you do is go to iran or saudi or afghanistan and see if you can go to a disco and see whether you are beat-up for not wearing hijab or burka
there are islamic majority countrys like turkey which are kinda western but that doesnt mean that the religion itself is liberal just that its not that powerful in that country
there are islamists in most liberal countrys majority muslim countrys that wish to turn those countrys into something like saudi

I had lots of iranian friends before the revolution in iran and iran used to be very western and liberal the same thing that happened there could happen in the future elsewhere if the ideology is given a free ride because people are scared to be critical of a "religion "

 

A woman I know has converted to Islam, and now wears the hijab. It has meant her disregarding her own intelligence and knowledge, and the hijab just means she's regarded with suspicion by others. Recently, she gave me a book 'Introduction to know Islam' by Dr. Yusuf Al-Qaradwy. I read as far as page 2, where the good doctor claims that only Islam. Judaism and Christianity have any scriptures. This is simply untrue. So presumably the rest if the book, built on a false foundation, would be more un-truth. And they can't even find a translator capable of rendering the thing in decent english.

I also confronted her with the story of the Jews of Medina, who Muhammed had executed, and took part in the executions himself. This led only to a denial, and more stuff about how I can't be happy as a non-muslim.
Well - I am quite happy as a non-muslim, and I'm not prepared to accept what is lies and falsification, and an attitude that blithely accepts the facts of Muhammed's life despite the abuses.
To those who argue that in Islamic countries it is not compulsory for women to wear the hijab, I would like to say that in some countries Islam is not fully practiced - in Saudi Arabia I doubt it would be permitted, and Saudi is the birthplace of Islam. And even in Morocco, a very liberal muslim country, a white womwn I know told me how when she went out she had a bunch of children calling her names etc. because as a non-hijab wearer, she's thought of a simply a whore.

 

why am not surprised at wat i am readin here..anyway am not tellin u to ACCEPT Islam..this isnt my intention..neither am i here to promote islam...or debate which religion is the best and which needs to be critise..but i just want to remind u one thing...that is to RESPECT PEOPLE..and this means just being sensitive when it comes to issues such as religion..its okie i understand now that this is abit too much for u to comprehend...and oh yeah it doesn matter to me whether u are american or british...the impression u have created of me doesnt change..and its nice to know that u have lived in a islamic ctry and that ur dad speaks arab..and that u have many muslim and ex muslim frens...okie..now so wat?? this doesn given u the right to say insensitive things..and this doesnt mean even abit that u know abt Islam to even make the attempt to judge...am just so sad for u that u are still so ignorant...yeah did anyone say ignoranc is bliss? oh yes.go on.


"in our conversations regarding islam you have shown that you really dont know that much about the religion as you disagreed that mohammed had sex with children made people slaves raped and tortured people"

trust me..i do know wat i am doin...am still here cos i know wat it means...its okie if u dont..but pls stop assumin and blabberin in ignorance...cos at times or rather most of the time it shows the ugliness in u...am totally disgusted at what u said abt our Prophet...YES I DISAGREE WITH U TOTALLY...so..wat do u know abt him..?? heck it..there are just too many of u around...

hijab is not just meant for women....hijab was first meant for men...i doubt most pple know this...especially pple who critise hijab blindly

"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze, and protect their private parts. That is purer for them. Verily Allah is All-Aware of what they do. "
Surah An Nur Chapter 24 Verse 30


hijab for men was addresses first..and only later women were addressed.


anyway here is a very good source..by Zakir Naik (the link can be found in my next post.)..he is a marathon speaker and has done alot for islam...well known and respected by many in the islamic world...he is well know for the many debates on reliogion...and abt how islam and science goes hand in hand..and he is an expert in the field of comparative religion studies..so HE KNOWS WHAT HE SAYS..unlike most of us...readin articles from faithfreedom gets u nowhere in helpin to know abt a faith..come on..obviously its run by a bunch of pple who dont believe in faith...and how could u even believe wat they say abt any faith..cos they are THEIR VIEWS.. .and it just amuses me o much that u hold on so strongly to wat they claim abt islam rather than choosin to see for urself wat islam teaches before judgin it so harshly...anyway again i understand this too much for u....its much much more easier to just sit and read some articles at some faithfreedom website..and just wait ur ass away for some nice guy to come and rebut the whole thing?? heck...why dont u try to do somethin?i guess its too intelluctually challengin for u..


am not tryin to convince u anything..i dont think there is even a need for me to do that..cos as u are happy with wat u have and what u THINK u know....i am happy where i am and wat i have....and am just sooo sorry for the ex-muslims who regard islam as a negative and 'dangerous' religion..cant help but laugh at how they feel abt islam...cos well...i guess if life is abt dancin in discos drinkin in pubs...walkin around half naked ....bein judged by pple over and over again based on how u look...well if this is called freedom..if this is ur idea of freedom...I DONT WANT THIS FREEDOM..cos wat i have is much more than what YOUR FREEDOM can offer.thanks.

go on...hold on to ur pathetic misconceptions...go on feed ur anger and hatred..u are makin the world 'a better place'

 

this is the article i was referin to..
u can find it at http://www.drzakirnaik.com/pages/qanda/3.php

 

you accuse me of ignorance and say that I shouldnt tell you something that upsets muslims
I can back up what I say using islamic sources
if Im right Im doing you a favour by showing you you are following a fake and a man with very low morality
if Im wrong you or some islamic cleric can surely prove me wrong

and burying your head in the sand doesnt do anyone any good think of all the non-muslims who read this thread and my friend ali sinas site and get the wrong impression of islam because muslims are unable or unwilling to prove me or him wrong

the first thing we have to remember is that islamic scripture was written by muslims its pro muslim propoganda that makes the things that are negative about mohammed all the more damning