Where are the people who care?

Just posing a question.... I'm sure this is gunna cause an uproar, but where the hell are the REAL young hippies? I'm sick of meeting idiots with tye-dyes who give people like me a bad name. Just because you do drugs and listen to old music does NOT mean you deserve the title. It means you're part of the problem. If you're going to try and be something, have the brains to back it up. The most intelligent protestors I've met for the most part look like normal people. Now me myself, I love colorful clothes and do do my fair share of drugs. But I also study politics and history (the key to our future), and try to give everything a fair thought before I comment on it. This is a bit emotional, after getting in an argument today at school with a guy who could not back up anything he had to say I am just sick of, well, posers for a lack of a better word. Are there really any intelligent youth left? -Rant Over- :$

Peace,
D.

 

I friggin agree 100%. I think I've met about 5 ACTUAL hippies on this site. Honestly, it is not stereotyping, it's just stupid. Hippies were called hippies becuz they following similar beliefs: Love, nonviolence,peace,anti-war,many were anti-establishment,anti-society (many, not all), and trying to live a more natural life. It's not simply that you're a hippie because you do weed and different from other people. Again, I'm not trying to stereotype, but that's what it was, and should still be like. Times change, I know, but the spirit and views shouldn't.

 

amen brother.. or sister. i dont know, sorry!


ive noticed on here, as well as a few other sites, that the majority of members smoke pot and assume that that means they are a hippie. They dont realize the lifestyle/beliefs that go along. Its a bit annoying.

 

Sorry to hear your so fed up...

There is another word in the hippy vocabulary...

Tolerance...

Hope the day gets better for you..

Just smile, and keep smiling...it works wonders if you just keep smiling...

 

AMEN!!! This is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to hear more.... Not just the one I quoted, all of you. It's nice to know I'm not alone. You all just made my day a lot brighter. Thank You!!!!!!!

Peace,
Darren

 

It's not intolerance, I try to be as tolerant and open-minded as possible (not boasting, but I do believe that I am very open-minded and tolerant). It's just irratating how they're like "oh yeah, I'm such a hippie. Why? Well I have a tiedyed shirt and smoke pot." Pff!

 

I study history, real history, not the crap they teach in schools. And I wear tiedye, and I smoke pot, do other drugs, I have started protests, I am vegetarian. I dont consider myself a hippy, I dont cinsider myself anything, I let other people do that. People who wear tiedye and smoke pot and proclaim they are hippies, sure they are annoying, but like strawpuppy said, I just smile and don't worry about it. They are who they wanna be, even if they dont fit the stereotypical hippy stereotype.

 

I disagree completely. Who are you (or I for that matter) to judge who is deserving of 'the title of hippie'? In fact, who are you to judge who is intelligent and who is 'part of the problem'? We're multi-dimensional people, and tagging certain groups of us as either intelligent or unintelligent is pointless. The 'poser' that you encountered at school could have had any number of reasons that would explain why he or she seemed unintelligent to you, while at the same time being an intelligent person. If you dig a little deeper, what exactly defines intelligence? To you, intelligence is apparently a thorough knowledge of politics and history. Some people say that a person's intelligence is indicated by an ability to absorb knowledge, some say that a person's intelligence is indicated by the amount of knowledge already absorbed. But neither definition of intelligence is concrete. We can attempt to find a person's ability to absorb knowledge, with tests or observation, maybe we can even come close, but there has and in my opinion always will be a dispute about how exactly to measure intelligence. In your opinion- can you pretty much accurately gauge a person's intelligence by how eloquent they seem? How well they can back up a point? I could back up the point that the world is round pretty eloquently, I think. Does that make me intelligent? Am I still intelligent if the point that I am arguing (convincingly) is wrong?

How many hours or minutes did you even talk to this 'poser' at school? Even if you had been talking to Mr. Poser for a century, you couldn't even hope to scratch the surface of Mr. Poser's intellect. And in those hours or minutes how can you claim to know his ability to absorb knowledge, or the amount of knowledge already absorbed, or even the amount of knowledge that he had absorbed about politics or history? And yet you manage to state that you are more intelligent than this 'poser'. You could conclude that in that specific encounter with Mr. Poser, you demonstrated to Mr. Poser (and the scientific community) that you have a greater knowledge of politics and history, and that you are more eloquent than he is. But instead you labeled him 'unintelligent'.

So the point is: you can't stereotype someone as 'unintelligent', a 'hippie', or a 'poser' because everyone has different definitions, and we can keep debating it until our heads explode but we will never, ever, ever come up with a standard with which to judge anyone's hipness. There will never be a certain number of hippie points. No one will ever be more of a hippie than someone else. Or more intelligent.

 

I agree with mary...everyone does have different defintions on all kinds of things...and there are all different kinds of intelligent, because everyone sees through different eyes..they all come from different backgrounds and have different personalitys...that is what makes life so intriguing to me..i love meeting all kinds of people, because no two people are the same...everyones views are from another point..i dont think i am anything but myself...many people try hard to be something they are not when they should be trying harder to be themselves, not a term that describes them best..just be you and smile as you go a long in life and enjoy the twists and turns, and dont let someone who is hard headed and doesnt agree with you get you down..that is them and just learn to except and ignore if it bothers you

 

i can dig that to a certain extent

and i definatley know where yer comin from when you ask is there any intelligent youth left

 

I stand corrected, to a point. I am the first to admit when I am wrong or make to rash of a judgement, and I admit both. As I said, my post was written in the spirit of emotion, which does tend to cloud judgement. I'm just tired of having to deal with the "stupid stoner" stereotype. That was probably the best response I've ever gotten to a post I've made ever. Tolerance and understanding is lacking in this world, and in my own mind. It's hard to see past your own experiances and I do tend to jump when my emotions get riled up. Thank you for helping me put a different spin on it, I will definatly think about what you have said.


Darren

 

the very nature of hippies was drugs and music. The hippie culture sprung from the beat generation...the beatniks called the wannabe beats hippies...because they were trying to be hip and get in the groups by wearing the clothes and doing drugs and knowing basically jack shit about the lifestyle...and then people started catching onto the hippie thing instead and the beats disappeared into anonymity like they wanted in the first place...

to say that someone isn't a hippie because they aren't political or whatever and because they just sit around and do drugs and talk...is a contradiction in terms because thats what the original hippies were...and from that sprung other counter culture movements such as the anti government agendas, the left wing idealism, the protests and whatnot...

but you'll still find a lot of people just tagging along because they like the music and the pot...they'll write you an epic poem about war...but to get them to actually protest it is more difficult...

i think that there needs to be some sort of redefinition of the term...because like has been said previously...hippie means lots of different things to lots of different people...to some it's just about the clothes and the music...to some it embodies the spirit of freedom and striving to change the world into the perfect eden like paradise everyone wants to see...

i don't consider myself a hippie at all...but i agree with some of the ideologies...and the political movements that seem to be associated with it...

but to aspire to be a stereotype is the worst thing you could possibly do...so why complain that people are giving hippies a bad name...they're just giving themselves a bad name...be a person and not a title...

 

im part hippy. but im also a lot of other things. im a variety of different stereotypes. we all are. im a complex cat. anyway, im gonna go get high again and make some more tye-die t-shirts.

 

Well...

There are the hippies who drop out of society completely, forming communes and such...

The protesting hippies...

The musician hippies...

The hippies with a specific boho/beatnick bent...

The kids who wear tye-died shirts and the potheads are labled by the ignorant public, really. While I try to ignore it, that whole poser thing does get to me.

 

i dont know why all the stereotype stuff has to go on... to quote someone who i think might have said this at one point in history..."you are what you is". no, not grammatically correct, but it carries a hefty amount of truth. i only wish people would just do what the hell they want to, not worry about what society is gonna say about it, and get on with their lives. if everyone did this, then it wouldnt be a big deal, and we wouldnt be ranting about it. but until mankind says "fuck the status quo... im not livin up to your stereotypes", ill keep reading about government and playing my music, rollin' doobs and writing songs, painting and helpin all my brothers and sisters out... because that is simply what i do. please, do whatever it is that you do...

 

that was a good post, but can you roll me a doobie man? mmm

 

the real young hippies have more fulfilling things to do than post messages on this site... they generally have a low post count.

 

anyone can grow dreds, put on some tie-dye and get toasted , thats not saying anything. there are a LOT of young people who try to fit into a certain stereotype because it's "cool" to them, and they don't realize their just limiting themselves. it's just like the white suburban kids who put on baggy pants and chains and talk with a fake inner-city accent and walk around talking about "The Hood" when they wouldent know what a hood looks like if they saw one, let alone know enough about it to know that most people in such areas DON'T act anything like that (i grew up in inner-city brooklyn and ive never acted like that in my life)
point is it's just whats cool to them and thats why they do it and theres no real beliefs behind it.
i've had conversations with teenagers who were bragging about how much of a hippie they were yet didn't know the first thing about it, i mean in one sentence they were like all love and peace and in the next they were talking about beeting the #^$* out of someone and how hunting is cool because they get to kill things
reason they are not true hippies is because they willingly put themself into a neat little steretypical box and dont want to think outside that
to be a Hippie is to NOT fit into that box, it's to be yourself regardless of what others think, AND not judging other either
i've had so called Hippies tell me upfront that i'm not a real hippie because i'm religious and all, see what i mean? so many people who claim the Hippie title feel the need to tell others who is and who isnt a hippie, its like their just using it as another elitest group to exclude people who dont act and look like them. i've seen it many times with them excluding people who look to "square" for them, its utterly stupid as its not whats on the outside but whats on the inside.
Yes i have Long Hair, does that make me a Hippie? NO
Yes i wear Tie-dye and sandals, does that make me a hippie? NO
what makes me a hippie is that im not afraid to be myself and stand up for my own beliefs regardless of what ANYBODY in ANY setting thinks and i refuse to be put in a tiny box by judgemental people

 

I would be doing more fulfilling things, but its 6:25 am and I am grounded.

 

Yeah good point.
My post count is only this high because I've no life. In my defence I have never scumbered to posting meaningless crap or becoming embroiled in petty fights.

Anyway back on topic. See this is why I don't give a rats ass about stereotypes and all that crap. There's never been any need for me to prove how much of a hippy I am. Labels are for clothing, I'm just myself.

Everyone else can just do whatever they like. Well as long as no one gets hurt.

Really what is the deal with saying you/someone is a hippy. It's a word wrapped up in a 60's mindset and assorted stereotypes/prejudices.
Why get hung up on that or even care. To feel special, to prove yourself morally superiour, to find a good excuse to just be who you want to be (like you need an excuse)
Really what are you trying to prove?

TTFN
Sage