What the hell is wrong with kids these days

12 and 15 year olds thinking that they are too fat or ugly... kids!. I ask one thing of you women here and that is, if a kid asks you, "do I look like my mom" say no....

 

Some 12 year old kids are too fat. Or they are ugly.

The idea isn't to lie to them by telling them that they aren't, but to help them come to terms with it.

 

Many kids think they are fat and ugly who aren't really fat and are normal looking.

I've gotten so much psycological damage from society my mind is beyond full repair.

 

Hmmmm it is sad that children are wishing away their childhoods so early. Kids shouldn't have to think about these things until they're like 13 or 14.
Ontheotherhand, there are children who are obese and these problems need to be sorted too because they are endangering their lives.

 

My SEVEN year old asks me if I think she is fat and tells me she's ugly. I'm pretty sure she gets it from girls at school. And those girls get it from their weight and looks obsessed mothers.
All I can do is watch what I say around her regarding myself and tell her she is beautiful and anyone who says otherwise is crazy...

 

Pssshhh, that's nothing unusual about 12 to 15 year olds feeling that way. My eating disorders (Anorexia, and later in my teen years, Bulemia) reared their filthy heads when I was 9 years old. I felt fat, I felt ugly, I starved myself, binged, purged, popped diet pills that I stole from my mother. It was a horrible ride.

I still suffer from self esteem issues to this day.

 

I don't have a daughter, but my younger son looks just like me.. But that means he is cute, not fat or ugly..

I really like the new real beauty campaign by Dove....the new commercial shows many different young girls, and a caption beside them..."thinks she's fat", "hates her freckles", "wishes she was blonde".......if only the rest of the media would catch on.

I got a TON of flack from other girls, they are freakin' MEAN. I was told every day how ugly I was, I was super skinny, so I had no boobs (for awhile ) Anything they could think of....and since beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I learned that what I was beholding in the mirror = ugly.

Being a young girl is a rough ride, and I wouldn't do it again for anything.

 

what's wrong with kids these days? their fanatically weight obsessed mothers or their friends fanatically weight obsessed mothers.

yep, and girls who start bitching about this kind of thing real young will probably end up being great weepy pains in the ass with tissue paper feelings and 12 eating disorders. just one person to stick up for them (besides their mothers) could probably make alll the difference in the world.

 

I think today's pop culture holds a great deal of blame for this.

 

I love that commercial too. I also like the one with the women talking about all the things they don't really like about themselves (big bell thighs, Buddha belly...) because it encourages mothers to love their bodies too.

 

Both my 19 year old and my 6 year old look just like me (with appropriate age differences) and people tell them this all the time. People actually walk up to Sunshine, who haven't seen us in a long time, and think she is me.

They don't mind looking like their mama. But their mama is hot. LOL!

 

It's society I think. I mean, a female isn't attractive unless she is "SuperModel" thin. Bullshit! Ya don't have to be thin to be pretty. Guys don't have to be Body builders to get women. Be yourself! Someone is gonna love you!

 

Look at their 'role models' Paris Hilton....who is deathly thin, Hilary Duff....who went from a girl with a figure to a twig with blonde hair and too much make up, Lindsay Lohan....a girl that covers natural beauty with more make up than a clown would dream of wearing, and Kiera Knightly....who looks TOO fit. What are they supposed to think?
The obesity of younger children is, in part, the fault of the parents, they allow their children so much junk food the child is bound to pack on the pounds.
Plus, high school is a VERY judgemental part of a childs life....they rely on the opinions of their fellow classmates to tell them how they really look. There is teasing from the people that think they're cute....and hatred from the underdogs.
I was raised in a family of full figured women (I'm half German, half Italian) that embraced their curves. I think a woman should have meat on her bones and embrace the natural beauty.

 

I've had a theory about this for some time now. Women are conditioned to think that being stick-thin is attractive, and this is not helped by men being conditioned to find this characteristic attractive in a woman. The fact that it is so difficult for women to achieve a waifish figure is testament to the fact that it is not natural for women to be that shape. And we have all heard of the health risks associated with the kind of diets and lifestyles adopted to achieve a thin figure.

 

every society dictates what it believes to be beautiful...we are no different. Our society pretty much says lean bodies with big boobs is the most ideal form.

Now, is the ideal form whats wrong with society? or the fact that most women cannot reach this form?

Most guys i know find the deathly thin people(calista flockhart, paris hilton, etc) NOT attractive. People like Jessica Alba and angelina jolie are considered much more attractive.

i understand the whole "be content with what you got" sentiment and i agree with it a lot, but should we not try to 'improve' ourselves by working out, makeup, shaving, hair styles, clothes, etc?

 

No, I don't believe we should improve for the sake of looks alone. That implies vanity, which is Al Pacino's favorite sin in Devil's Advocate. If we need to improve ourselves, it should be with the intent to stay healthy. After all, does it really matter how much a person weighs if they die from a heart attack brought on by an eating disorder? It is ironic that the same risk of heart attack is caused by being too over and under weight.

Peace & Love

 

They are far fatter this days than they were 20 30+ years ago. prob thounsands of years thats for the U.S i cant speak for other parts of the World but some Euros allready look similar = Fat.

 

What you see as vanity, i see as pride.

"vanity and pride are different things, though the words are often used synonymously. A person may be proud without being vain. Pride relates more to our opinion of ourselves; vanity, to what we could have others think of us."- Jane Austen

No one is saying people should resort to eating disorders. In fact, most times, they are being counter productive and would have better results if they actually ATE food.

I dont see why we should abandon 'the ideal' because people have self esteem issues. Maybe that is the real problem with modern society, not our fixation with thin waistlines and large boobies.

 

Megara, I hope you are happy with yourself. I believe that pride and vanity are very similar; they are both poisons of happiness. Pride is an attachment to one's ego, while vanity is an attachment to one's body. Both of these cause us to define ourselves by our attachments. Attachments are temporary; they don't last forever. This includes looks. We will get older, our bodies will gain weight, our firm breasts will sag. Everything is impermanent. When one identify themselves with their looks exclusively, one will suffer when the looks are gone. This is a Buddhist perspective.

In general, Americans are fighting with the concept of impermance using botox, breasts lifts, hair dying, plastic surgery, etc. It seems that more and more people are trying to defy impernance of appearance. Isn't it easier and cheaper just to accept the way that you are without conditions?

Peace & Love

 

I disagree with your definition of Pride.

And yes, i am happy with myself. But, i still wish to improve myself intellectually and physically among other things. No one is saying people should identify themselves with looks exclusively. Appearance, whether you like it or not, is an important part of who we are. It is a way of expressing ourselves, and i don't see why that is bad. But it is still only a part of who we are.

isnt it easier and cheaper to accept ignorance over education? isn't it easier and cheaper to be a thief than an honest person? just because something is easier and cheaper doesn't mean it is better.

Why should we blame society for our own shortcomings? I know it is easier to say "society is making me eat only celery!" than saying "i have self esteem issues." It is easier to say that Society has a fucked up ideal because you can't reach it, but that is not societies fault, that is yours(in a general sense). I'm never going to be the ideal male form...won't happen. I have accepted that. Why can't others?