What is the different between a solider and a terrorist?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Inquiring-Mind, Mar 17, 2006.

  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    A middle easterner fighting and attacking the US is bad but a solider fighting and attacking for the US is good. Isn't America being a hypocrite by conveying fighting, attacking and violence are bad and wrong yet using them to achieve it's cause?


    How does the actions of a few justify attacking a whole nation? 2000 people died on 9/11 but 20 thousand plus died because of the Iraq war and many now live in despair. Are American lives superior to Iraqi lives?
     
  2. Wicked Penetration

    Wicked Penetration Member

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    Um. Fighting and trying to avoiding civilian casualties for a cause vs. strapping on bombs and killing your own people? I think that's a big difference.
     
  3. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    The difference is a matter of legality...simply put
     
  4. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    exactly

     
  5. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    word.
     
  6. Crazy Bob

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    Well, let's just see: They are immoral, committers of senseless violence, wreakers of havoc and dismay, causing the deaths of thousands of innocent lives for no purpose whatsoever, and destroyers of the peace. The difference between a terrorist and a soldier however is, uh, well.... Shit. I guess soldiers just have more expensive technology to use then the terrorists do. I should remind you, however, that the weaponry used by the terrorists were supplied by the US in the first place, hence the reason why the military gets to upgrade their shit.
     
  7. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    a terrorists task is not to attack to conquer but more so to create situations that invoke terror among its citizens of its enemy thus disrupting the lives of its enemy. A soldier is a person who upon command is to fight an enemy only after a declaration of war has been sent to the enemy and now also (thanks to the un) declared to the world. Now a soldier can also be used as a peice keeping force and then the delcaration of war need not be served but rather it is called a piece keeping mission and the people who fight are then not soldiers but asort of UN police force.

    As for the 2000 to 20,000 ratio it is really not a numbers game. In life if you are lucky enough to keep the number to your favor in life than great. I mean if you take a blow of X number lives and then are able to take 100X that many lives from your enemy than it is a great day for you.

    Im not saying I agree or disagree just pointing out the logic of it.
     
  8. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I don't think a reasoned arguement is what was being asked for..:rolleyes:


    Two differing issues.. though suprisingly or unsuprisingly it IS a few that seem to 'justify' everything...Saddam being the one that 'justified' the current conflict.. [if you see what i mean ??].

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,863569,00.html
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2412837.stm

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    1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
    2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

    i think that is more applicable
     
  9. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    A uniform?
     
  10. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    terrorists use terror as a tactic... Nelson Mandella could have be considered a terrorist.

    The millitary use millitary force, which is a different thing.
     
  11. lankymidget

    lankymidget Worlds Tallest Dwarf

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    So if I were to find myself defending my country, and hadn't gone through the process of being conscripted or signing up to fight, I'd be a terrorist?

    I've said it before in these forums, but.. "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom-fighter"...
     
  12. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    legitimate authority.
     
  13. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    semantics.

    technically, soldiers are murderers too, any way you sugar-coat it.
     
  14. lankymidget

    lankymidget Worlds Tallest Dwarf

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    A world without either would sure be more peaceful..
     
  15. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    agreed.
     
  16. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    NO. Murder is the unlawful killing of another. The killing that a soldier does is within the law.

    Soldiers are killers, not murderers.

    One difference between a soldier and a terrorist is that a soldier is acting under orders. The soldier is at the bottom of a chain of command that supposedly, cools the personal passions. The fight/no fight decision is not made by the soldier. A terrorist makes that decsion for themselves.

    Which is worse, killing because you are told to or killing because you have a greivence? I'm not sure. Shall we ask the dead if they care why they were killed?
     
  17. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    toe-MAY-toe, or toe-MAH-toe ...

    you think a terrorist acts out alone?!? a terrorist answers to superiors too, you know.
    The soldier is a grunt, who thinks he's actually doing something for his country; and many of them get some sick adrenaline rush from invading someone else's land, to kill the "bad guys"

    oh, but if innocent civilians get killed, oops...that's called "collateral damage", not murder.
     
  18. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    ooh, ooh, i got it! whose side you are on!
     
  19. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    as Dubya would say, "if yer not with us, yer against us"
    such a compelling argument.

    we chemists have a saying too: "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate." [​IMG]
     
  20. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Why pretend that terrorists target civilians because they have no choice? Why do they have no choice but to put on an explosives belt and walk into a Shi'ite mosque or vegetable market?
     
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