What does it say in the bible about...

honouring your mother and father? my mum was... saying...? no, accusing me? yes of not respecting her and my dad and she told me i was going to be cursed because it says so in the bible.
What is the curse???????

By the way I was not dishonouring them at all, just humouring myself and they took the joke the wrong way... which is happening all too often. which is why i'm refraining from jokes to them

 

Um... I think it's a comandment? And there's a whole shpeal about it in the bible... tons of parables... it's an ongoing theme....

 

yes you are right but what is the curse spoken of thanks for your heeelp though

 

I'll tell you a part of it. If you don't honor your father and mother it means you have rejected the life they provided for you. You don't have to do it publicly however, its more of a thing that you know you turned out kick ass and they were part of it. Your parents were a gift given to you by God.

 

You're supposed to honor your father and mother so that your days will be long upon the earth I believe.
So, I guess the curse of not honoring would be that your life would be shortened.

 

ah thankyou friends


Would you call me your friend?
even if I was a satanist?

Or would society reject me like they rejected jesus

 

Society would reject you, definitely. Satanists don't have a good stigma in this day and society, or ever in any society, actually.

I would still be your friend though. But as a Satanist, you would most likely not be my friend... not as a principle, but because I am so consumed with the gospel of Jesus Christ, which releases us all from hatred.

 

There is no curse involved, unless you are reviling them. As it says in Ephesians it is the "first command with a promise". So while it doesn't say what will happen if you don't honor them, it does say what will happen if you do.

Here are the applicable Scriptures:

(Exodus 20:12) . . .“Honor your father and your mother in order that your days may prove long upon the ground that Jehovah your God is giving you.

(Deuteronomy 5:16) “‘Honor your father and your mother, just as Jehovah your God has commanded you; in order that your days may prove long and it may go well with you on the ground that Jehovah your God is giving you.

(Ephesians 6:2-3) 2 “Honor your father and [your] mother”; which is the first command with a promise: 3 “That it may go well with you and you may endure a long time on the earth.”

(Matthew 15:4) 4 For example, God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Let him that reviles father or mother end up in death.’

Here is what is meant by the word honor in the Bible;

HONOR
The principal Hebrew term denoting “honor” is ka·vohdh′, which literally means “heaviness.” (Compare the use of related terms in 1Sa 4:18 and 2Sa 14:26.) So a person who is honored is regarded as being weighty, or amounting to something. In Greek, the noun ti·me′ conveys the sense of “honor,” “esteem,” “value,” “preciousness.” Thus the verb ti·ma′o can also mean “set a price on” (Mt 27:9); the noun ti·me′ can have the sense of “price,” “value” (Mt 27:6; Ac 4:34); and the adjective ti′mi·os can mean “esteemed,” “dear, or valuable,” and “precious.”—Ac 5:34; 20:24; 1Co 3:12.

 

I don't know what you mean by Satanist but the Bible says that Christians should show love toward all but at the same time it says that bad associations spoil useful habits.

So, it would be a little like befriending a thief, yes you could be friends but you wouldn't want to drive him to a bank or leave him alone with your valuables.

Society may reject you for being a Satanist but it would not be for the same reasons it rejected Jesus.

 

Satanists are generally not very well accepted in society. A lot of people tend to fear them. Not for the same reason Jesus was rejected though it must be added. But that would not make anyone less of a friend. I have a friend personally who was dabbling in La Vey Satanism, and all I could do was try and talk him out of it and prayed for him and eventually he decided against it.
A Christian should not reject a Satanist. To do so would be unbiblical, as we are taught that no-one is unworthy of help no matter how sinful they are. So, no Christians shouldn't reject or give up on someone because they are Satanists. Indeed, they are the people we should be working the hardest to try and help.

I think OWB did a good job in collecting the scriptures. There's no curse if you don't honour your parents but it is a requirement to do so.

 

Being presented in conjunction with the suffix ,"go well on the ground", it is a singular statement, not a command and an additional promise. Father creator, Mother earth. It describes our relationship with our environment.

 

You do just like to make it up as you go along.

Ephesians 6:2-3 Says: “Honor your father and [your] mother”; which is the first command with a promise: “That it may go well with you and you may endure a long time on the earth.”

I suppose you believe you understand the Bible better than the inspired Bible writer Paul but I think I'll go with what Paul has to say on the matter.

 

In a way you are correct when you say ""mother" and "father" in Biblical Scripture doesn't necessarily mean biological mothers and fathers", it does mean that but goes beyond that, because how we treat our parents is a refection of how we view God.

Also though, you should obey your parents, honor does not necessarily mean strict obedience. If your parents, as you mention ask you to murder, you have to obey God rather than "men".

But even then you should honor your parents even though they themselves may not be honorable. Because God asked you to and he is your "Father" and you should honor him.

 

[*]Paul was a zealot. There was much dissent then as there is now over who or what constitutes proper authority. God creates the everlasting, man attempts to emulate the everlasting through the establishment of tradition. "Which is the first command with a promise," is a colorizing remark. Paul was very much a believer in the hierarchical tradition. Paul's value to the establishment of the church was his inherent willingness to campaign across the length and breadth of the land for his cause. Paul changed alliance from preserving tradition to establishing a new tradition. Paul had a new model but he was still Paul.

[*]Peter was shown to have progressed over time in his understanding. At one point vowing to defend Jesus, Jesus rebuked him. He denied Jesus three times before the cock crowed. He was shown that he should speak evil of no man.

[*]Jesus himself can be seen to modify his own positions on a couple of occasions. One being on who his message was for, as in the case regarding the woman with the wise saying, even the dogs are allowed the crumbs from the table.

[*]Jesus left two distinct yet complimentary legacies. One the church, which is a civic institution with the mandate of feeding and caring for the people. The other is sending down of the comforter or Holy Spirit as a guide to the abiding light.

[*]My guide is the sure comfort of the Holy Spirit. Your guide by your own declaration is the writ of man, which is inherently controversial. You see Christ as yet to return, I see that Christ resides with us at this very moment.

[*]I do not believe that I am more inspired than Paul. I can see that you and I are drawing on a different source. Do you examine what I say on the merit of what is being said or do you discard what is being said on the basis that it does not agree with your interpretation of what the bible says?

 

So, does mean because you are not a Christian, you believe you shouldn't honor your parents?

 

I discard what you say on many levels.

One is that you often disagree with what the bible directly says, In this case what you say is indirect opposition to what Paul said and that's without any "interpretation" of what Paul said.

Two, I also can see we are drawing on different sources. I draw on the Bible and you seem to be drawing on a source that is opposed to the Bible.

Three, for the most part you seem to be just making it up as you go along.

Four, when it is pointed out that what you have said deviates from God's inspired word, how do you handle it. You call into question those inspired writers. Even saying Jesus vacillated in what he had to say. Then you call the Bible man's word and not God's. Not the signs of a true prophet.

Five, with all of this in mind, I seems that you want to draw believers to yourself and your "New revelations", rather than to God and his word; personally, I'll stay with God and his Word the Bible. Thanx anyway.

 

After my saying one should honor his parents, you said; "I'm not a Christian though lol...to each his own I guess."

I then asked; "So, does mean because you are not a Christian, you believe you shouldn't honor your parents?"

What part don't you understand?

You made a personal comment, "I'm not a Christian though" in response to a comment I made that you quoted and I'm just asking what that response means.

 

Lying? Interesting.

Let's take a look and see.

If you'll notice the highlighted portions of your comment, it seems you may be the one telling an untruth.

I was not telling you that you should obey the God of the Bible. We both in our comments used the term "in Biblical Scripture", that would indicate that we were talking about what the Bible says. Thus I was not telling you to do anything.

Game playing? I asked a simple question, to clarify an answer you had made and it's taken you a half a dozen posts to answer. That seems like game playing to me but unlike you, I try not to comment on the motives of others.

Once again, in that particular comment I was talking about what the Bible says and although I do believe that God is my father, I was not saying that "God is your Father" and you should obey the God of the Bible. I was saying that is what the Bible says.

SCIENTIFIC comment? A scientific comment would something like, studies have found most that most people don't agree with the bible but as soon as you say "I am" that means what follows is something personal about you, in this case, that you are not a Christian.

AS for creating any confusion about you, I was not even talking about you, except to say I thought your comment was only partially true, so how could I be creating any confusion about you?

I asked you a question to simply clarify your comment and you think that's an attempt to start a fight?

Everything isn't always personal? Then maybe you shouldn't take it that way.

Since I'm not "game playing" perhaps your "disinterest" is due to something else.

 

I weigh the words of the bible, interpreting it with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. What you find me disagreeing with is not the bible, but your interpretation of it.
Actually I gave a concise interpretation of what Paul said. He adds a colorizing remark to the scripture as regards the command regarding father and mother. And can be farther demonstrated that he does so in direct contravention of what is stated by Jesus. Who are my family, those who do the will of my father. Call no man your father. I have come to set members of a family against one another. This is not an effort to destroy the fabric of society. He is making a distinction between the heavenly perception of the equal inheritance of divine brotherhood and the worldly hierarchical perception of unequally allied powers.

I told you I draw on the Holy Spirit as my guide to interpreting the bible. Do you deny the Holy Spirit? I rely on the bible for the truth and accuracy it contains. I rely on the bible because it is true, not because I believe in it.

That would necessarily be the case for information you had never before. I teach as I am taught by the Holy Spirit.

You have not shown me to be a deviant from God's inspired words, but you have made the claim that I am uninspired. I make no claims to any stature, nor do I call you a demon.

I was taught by my request a way forward from my perpetual struggle with, "sinful nature". There are many true seekers who have questions regarding their own faith and this is due to the many disparate voices as to what the "right way" is. This question regarding the rightness or wrongness of things requires us to use judgment or arbitration, which is antithetical to the command do not judge. There is another way to use our "power of discernment", answer the question is it true or is it false. Ask the question what is it for. Make the distinction as to whether it is the same or different.
This is what is meant by do not judge by appearances but rather use right judgment. I do not wish to draw believers to myself, only to lend comfort to those who are traveling.
I notice that you make no mention of Holy Spirit, is there a reason for that?

 

You should try your best to obey your parents. We all sin. So its not possible to be perfect. That is why you repent, my friend, from all your wrong doings. :]