What do YOU think?

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by TheWay, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. TheWay

    TheWay Member

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    Why do you think psychedelics are illegal?
     
  2. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    Wellll 'cause everybody drives cars.

    And psychedelics don't go very well with driving . .

    Deaths might occur!

    (I've driven peaking on mushrooms and acid, it's menacing if youre on the freeway, fun if you're on an island)

    I think they're illegal for that reason, and also because the government knows how amazing these chemicals are, and how stellar our relationship with them is,

    if word got out the public that acid made you see further
    and made you want to stretch
    and make art

    and not that it stays in your spine
    giving you menacing flashbacks
    and you might go insane forever

    The whole world would change.

    America doesn't want that happening,
    and america doesn't want that to happen in any other country.

    America doesn't want the one thing that seemed to spark our conscious evolution
    available to try, and see for yourself.

    Fucking cock suckers legalizing Tobacco and alcohol.
    Kill off the population with cancer, and stupidity.

    Us psychonauts know better . .
     
  3. OstrOsized

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    Because the government is scared of it's power. I mean look at what happened in the 60s. The government was completely losing control. And that was very largely influenced by psychedelics.
     
  4. jane a

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    I think the reason theyre illegal is because they are very productive in eliminating the drive needed for a capatilist economy. This might just be personal experience, but i find when im on them its like i reawaken and realize the things that really make me happy, such as art, nature, music, and doing good things for other people without needing anything in return. Since our government is run by money, greed, and generally being selfish, these other qualities dont mesh. If everyone ran around feeling happy, always givin of themselves, huggin trees and makin lovely music, we sure would not have such a strong economy. and that would be really bad, right?


    or you could just take the alternative choice and not give a shit about economy, set up a bartering system among friends and eat shrooms till you die happy.
     
  5. mellow

    mellow Eased

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    Its all been said, well put all of you.
     
  6. Archemetis

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    because in the right hands they can bring down an empire.....they've done enough reseach and testing to understand this. mkultra????? what controls your mind controls your reality.
     
  7. Adderall_Assasin

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    hahaha...

    its the damn, greedy CONSERVATIVES.
     
  8. OstrOsized

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    Exactly what I was saying. They want to run their country as easy as they can for themselves, basically telling people what to do and what not to do. Psychedelics bring us to question them, and like an above poster said, find more love in art, nature, music, etc. and not money and power.
     
  9. seancourt

    seancourt Free Your Mind

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    This sums it all up
     
  10. Adderall_Assasin

    Adderall_Assasin Senior Member

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    i can see ur point of view yo, but just because we COULD do drugs doesnt mean that everyone WILL do drugs. point is, individuals DO posses responsibility for things that are hazardous. everyone knows that alcohol can poison and impair driving and is addictive. only reason conservatives accept it is because it is a widely accepted tradition to drink alcohol. MJ, for example is safer than alcohol yet conservatives refuse to pull the dick from thier ass about it.
     
  11. Adderall_Assasin

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    oh, and a capitalistic economy means that anyone can sell or buy anything and no monopolies exist on any sort of product, nor any limitations on buy or sell. america is not a capitalistic economy. our goverment tells us we are but its not really accurate. America only posses some capitalistic qualities, but we do not have a capitalistic economy.
     
  12. Archemetis

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  13. Adderall_Assasin

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    ?

    soo... ur saying that because of a few musicians that died, psycodelics dont exist? and whats this thing here about a "cause"? are you implying that psycodelics are a "cause"? i disagree with everything you just stated. lol, psycodelics did not burnout and will not burnout in the near future. drugs dont die, ppl die.
    i was at a rave a little while back and wow, there was hundreds of ppl there having a great time and doing psycodelics. some ppl rave for psycodelics and some ppl do psycodelics to rave. the most important thing i noticed was that no-one died or ODed. on another note, everyone there was very nice and considerate. the environment that the psycodelic user is in will ussually be a fun and protected environment.
    look at it this way, we are allowed to posses fire-arms in the US. fire-arms are deadly but in the right environment with supervision or expierience, there will be no problems. in the wrong hands, or unsupervised, or without expierience, ppl die from guns. thing is, with a gun then i could put someone elses life into my own hands. with psycodelics, i am responsible for what substances i take and how much.
     
  14. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    nuttin' is here
     
  15. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    if i had the choice i really would rather to be the long haired acid pocket guy, but apart from that i agree mostly with what you said, psychedelics just look like any other drug to right-wing people, they mostly do not think people are doing them for 'conciousness expansion'.
     
  16. dd3stp233

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    Psychedics are illegal because they have not yet been fully integrated into the social and cultural framework of the U.S. Some psychedlics are legal for some religious groups.

    Also they are worth more on the black market then if they were legal. Take marijuana, for instance, easy to grow most places, wouldn't be worth more then backyard tomatoes, if it were legal. Make it illegal and its worth its weight in gold. Its a billions of dollars a year industry. Your own dealers might have a vested interest in keeping it illegal.
     
  17. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    dd3stp233, that's an awesome point that lots of people don't realize. i think it's good that drugs are illegal, in some ways, because it puts a bit of a restriction on the quantity we can take and forces us to have some time inbetween for introspection, instead of all being happy and peaceful, but permafried burnouts by our mid 20's.

    i think we should start a secret terrorist operation in the food industry ;). drop just enough chemicals in people's soups, salad dressing, cookie dough, etc, to make them have a spiritual and emotional epiphany, but not enough to know they're tripping out on drugs or impair their abilities to drive or work or interact with other people. wouldn't it be amazing if all over the country people simultaneously became enlightened and didn't know why?

    it would never work. but it would be amazing if it did. and it would be pretty hard to detect if you kept the levels really low. we could do some experiments, find out at what level certain drugs were active, and portion it correctly... and pray to god we don't get caught.
     
  18. shockseventyfour

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    that does sound cool. kinda sounds like hawaiin baby woodrose. I didnt trip out to much but afterwards i was thinking really deeplly about a lot of things and have revelations.
     
  19. dd3stp233

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    It sounds a lot like the plan the CIA had for the Russians in the 1950's. They wanted to put LSD in the Russians water supply to turns they all into loving Buddha's so to stop the cold war. I seem to remember the Russians having a similar plan for the US. Certain people around the Grateful Dead were notorious for dosing people if they didn't like their vibes. They said it worked. Maybe some of the worlds political problems could be solved that way.
     
  20. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    if we got some loveterrorists to dose the sodas in every mcdonals in america, think what would happen...

    or if we get them working in the big factories, like hershey's and pepsi. man, even if you did get caught and sent to jail, you'd be legendary. and maybe by the time you went to court, the judge would've drank some soda and ate some chocolate.

    we could plant a person in all the major companies. a few at kraft, kirkland, campbells, kellogs, del monte...

    it would be so fucking easy.
     

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