What are future energy sources? The best alternatives for fossil fuels

Discussion in 'Alternative Technologies' started by Inquiring-Mind, May 3, 2006.

  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    The most sustainable, clean, and efficient.


    1. solar
    2. wind
    3. hemp
     
  2. Old Hippie

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    Veggie oil for diesels.
     
  3. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

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    what about magnets?
     
  4. Leopold Plumtree

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    Yes, what 'bout 'em? You tell me...
     
  5. Yoseff

    Yoseff Music Addict

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    It'd be pretty interesting to see what could be made to produce power from magnets. As it is at the moment, they are at the core of electric motors, but outside electricity is needed to charge them or something of that nature. I'm not sure...

    Perhaps some mythical perpetual motion machine could be created. But it wouldn't work as far as I know.

    How bout stations in the ocean that harness tidal currents? Those seem pretty sweet. Not sure what they do to the environment, tho
     
  6. Duck

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    the best is natural gas
     
  7. Yoseff

    Yoseff Music Addict

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    Title of Thread = What are future energy sources? The best alternatives for fossil fuels

    Natural gas is a fossil fuel.
     
  8. jacobfredjo

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    i say we figure out how to make water (H2O) a cheap and efficient energy source. Its our most abundant resource by far and it is very simple.
     
  9. Yoseff

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    You could find a way to break the bonds between the hydrogen and the oxygen, releasing the energy there... but i have no clue how that would work...
     
  10. Leopold Plumtree

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    They're called generators, dynamos and alternators.

    Welcome to the nineteenth century. ;)
     
  11. Yoseff

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    Hydrogen cells give water off as a reaction product. The water isn't used in the reaction that produces the energy.
     
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    Whoops x 4
     
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    Whoops
     
  14. Yoseff

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    stupid network problems
     
  15. zeppelin kid

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    Splitting atoms tends to create enormous amounts of energy, its called fission. Nuclear bombs are made by splitting atoms.
     
  16. themnax

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    the intigration of energy from ALL NONcombustive sources. wind, solar, hydro, tide, geothermal, and of course being forced to not consume so much by it simply being no longer as cheap or abundant.

    it's not even a matter of choice really. right now it is. and a choice we'd be better off making. but a time will come, some guestimate arround 40 years from now, could be later, could be sooner, when the cost of production exceeds market value, which is a way of saying, for all practical purposes there ain't gonna BE no more petrolium.

    and in about 200 years their ain't gonna be any more coal either, a lot less then that if we start using it again in place of petrolium to the extent we did before petrolium extraction and proccessing became abundant and it's product cheap.

    that's assuming we survive the environmental effects of the century we've been relying on petrolium now and the couple of centuries of coal before that and possibly in our immediate future if we don't shift energy policy to cleaner and more sustainable sources.

    i didn't mention nuclear because it isn't ever going to be practical to carry a major share of production. nations are too paranoid of other nations having the potential to make weapons out of it. which is only the least of its problems. though there probably will continue to be a SMALL roll for it. about 5 to 15% of total energy production. whereas the windsolar combo will give us arround 31% and hydro (dams with waterwheels turning generators) another somewhere between 40 and 50%.

    so between wind/solar and hydro, that's arround 73% of where it's going to have to come from once the oil and coal are gone. and could be producing close to that percentage now if policy favored its doing so.

    (which it would if it wasn't being decided by idiots with vested intrests in the oil industry)

    ok so 73% <> 100%. too bad. doesn't neccessarily mean we'll have to do without all of that remaining 27%. that's where the little guys like nuke come in. and verious permutations of biomass, which is unfortunately still combustion, and not cheap either in the context of the scale of production we're talking about.

    more distributed and localized, less central and capitol intensive, placement of production might actualy help too in a number of ways beyond the scope of either my limited encompassment of available knowledge on the subject or the space of an informal conversation such as this.

    =^^=
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  17. bamboo

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    Actually bamboo should also be on that list.
     
  18. bamboo

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    find out how to create efficient fusion from the duterium in ordinary sea water and the world's energy problems are solved.
     
  19. bamboo

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    unfortunately it requires energy to break the hydrogen-oxygen bonds in water...quite a lot of energy.
     
  20. barter mama

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    Waste veggie oil - working on converting a diesel '82 VW Vanagon right now, should be sweet. And bio-diesel. :) Wouldn't it be awesome to run your car off hemp oil? I wonder how the exhaust smells when burning it... hmmm..
     

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