Vein Problem

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by maybejusthappy, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. maybejusthappy

    maybejusthappy Member

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    I recently shot up for the first three times. One of those times left a larger mark than the other two, and my arm was sore ever since the first time. I figured this was just a result of a needle in my arm and didn't mind, really, cuz it reminded me of how good slamming felt.
    But two days after the third one, I woke up to a painful arm. There was a huge red bruise beginning at the large mark, going along the vein halfway up my upper arm, surrounded by black and blue. Now its been 3 days.

    What happened? And how did it happen when I only just started slamming? Will I be able to use that vein again (or do I have to train my lesser hand?)?
     
  2. Oxymorph

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    You missed the vein and shot your DOC into your arm (not vein). I've done this a few times and the abscess always go's away within a week.
    And yes you can use that vein again, just make sure it heals properly AND DONT MISS!
     
  3. Shocbomb

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    Alot of factors could of happend ? You could of hit a nerve a tender spot in your skin, etc, The only thing is Herion is not like coke it really does not matter if you miss, alot of people miss unpurpose with herion its called Skinpoping. So that really should not matter at all, It sucks but should not give you a infection.Coke on the other hand burns like a bitch when you miss and can casue a infection. With Dope I just get pissed becasue I missed and it messed up my shot and I will not feel the rush now LOL. Also Were you using Powder Herion or Tar ? Tar Herion is very dirty shit and is known to cause infections and abscess. Also man Make sure you are using clean needles I don't mean needles that other people used I mean make sure they are not setting out with no cap on them where dirt and dust can get on the tip, make sure you run water threw the needle a few times before injecting to be safe.Always take care of your works and clean them out so shit won't get injected into your boddy.
     
  4. maybejusthappy

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    It was tar (damn Portland!!!), but I did use a new rig that came straight from the pharmacy.

    So I missed the vein, huh. I must have moved after checking for blood, I guess.
    Good to know I can still use it, though ;)

    Thanks!
     
  5. Shocbomb

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    Yeah With TAR its a whole different story, I know its not good to miss with Tar. Tar Heroin is unrefined Heroin. Powder Heroin is the same thing as Tar it has nothing to do with how strong they are at all.The only difference is its just refined. I hate when people have arguments about which kind of Heroin is better and stronger.They are bolth the same dam thing one is just cut short in the process of making it and the other is not. 99.9% of are Heroin hear on the east coast comes from Afghanistan and south east Asia where they cook it down into powder. On the west coast most of your Herion comes from Colombia,Venezuela and Central America where 9/10 they only make Tar Becasue its easier to make and takes alot less time. Hear on the East coast I only ran into Tar Heroin one time and thats it in all my years of using. The dealer sold it for about a week and that was it he went back to Powder and I never saw it again from then on.. Its very very hard to find hear. I had really no idea how to even do it the first time I got it. I tried using it just like powder and It would not brake down in the water,Good thing becasue A kid who use to live in Cali told me you had to use lemon Juice to brake it down, I did that and it was fine the only thing was I could not get over what it looked like in the needle. It looked just like Mud or water with dirt in it. It was hard to tell when I hit my vein also but I finally got it. I can see why you guys west of the missippi river have a hard time finding your vein with that shit.Powder dope is a light blown, or a coffie color in the needle sometimes its almost clear and you can tell when you hit your vein. Hey In the future dude just make sure you hit your vein man. If you don't hit it don't worry just make sure you clean the spot alot with hot water and soap. Lay a wash rag with hot water sit on it for a hour or so and let it soak in real good.This will help it alot.Also after put alchool on it or Proxide a few times a day, make sure you cover it up with some gause and a bandaid, You should be alright then. Just keep doing the process until it goes away. But If it gets worse and keeps getting bigger this it nasty but take a needle and drian the nasty ass puss out, and make a hole in it and squeeze it like a big zit to drain it out if you can't drain it if a needle. Also try to get antibiotics to be on the safe side. Do not ignore a bad infection or abscess they can really get bad and you will be in a world of hurt. Good luck man and just be careful using. In all my Years of using IV drugs I never ounce got a abscess I was so dam lucky becasue I missed with coke alot. The only time I got a real bad one was when a spider bit me on my upper arm go figure. I have seen alot of bad ones from IV drugs though and they are a nasty ass sight.
     
  6. maybejusthappy

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    Yeah, tar can be strong, it just isn't pure at all. This dude from NYC who had only ever gotten powder before actually OD'd on me cuz he didn't think the tar would be nearly as strong as it was.
    And that shit looked NASTY in the needle. All we did was cook it up with some water in a spoon, and it melted into the water as a really dark liquid that's hard to distinguish from the blood when you check your placement...

    Is there any way I can get tar and finish making it into powder? That would certainly be nice...

    Anyways, my arm appears to be healing almost as quickly as it got fucked up, so thank you all for your help. I guess I shouldn't have freaked so quickly...
     
  7. Shocbomb

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    maybejusthappy- YesThere is a way to take tar Heroin and turn it into powder I have read abut it on a few other forums and on drug sights. I just know you really got to know what you are doing becasue one wrong move you will mess up all your shit and that would suck BAD !!!! So If I were you I would just stick with the tar ? Also when you said all you have to do is cook the Tar tobrake it down I never even thought about that at all I will know that now for next time so I don't have to go and get lemon jucie again. Becasue With powder Heroin you don't have to cook. All you have to do to it is add some water and mix it up in your bottle cap/spoon and its ready to shoot,The same ting with snffing it just take it out of the bag and brake out lines. Hey I heard with Tar you can sniff it if you add water to it then sniff up the water ? Is that true or is it bull shit I am just curious if you can really do that or not. can you smoke Tar also ?
     
  8. Twizz

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    you can definitly smoke tar, I'm not sure about snorting it with water though.
     
  9. maybejusthappy

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    I don't know about railing tar. Do you mean to put nasty black water up your nose??? Cuz I don't usually think to put liquids up my nose...
    I'd really like to get some powder (or make it), but I can't find anyone who can find powder out here. It's quite sad.
    Chasing the dragon works, but you get so much more putting it straight in your vein...
     
  10. Shocbomb

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    Yeah I have heard a few times on the net that tyou can sniff Tar buy sniffing up the nasty black Water ? The crazy part is I would think it would be nasty as all hell but I would think it would work I can't see why not. It would be alot more nasty then sniffing powder and hirt pretty bad but it would do the samw thing the drug would go into your mucus membrains and then into your lungs and yopu would get high. Who knows ?I just can't imagine someone doing that though It would hurt so bad ?
     
  11. stareyes21

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    I've never shot up anything and want to try it. I want to shoot dilaudid or oxy's. I have a tloerance so I'm not concerned about OD-ing, but I have no idea what kind of needle to use or even how to go about doing it. What needle gauge do I need and how many cc's? Can I get them at a CVS? Can anyone help?
     
  12. maybejusthappy

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    So I think there are needle exchange and access places in some states (I know CA and NY both do), and in others, like OR, you can go into a pharmacy and ask for insulin syringes of whatever cc or gauge you want. I would suggest 1 or 1/2 cc insulin syringes, 28 gauge, but check out erowid's tips:
    http://erowid.org/psychoactives/hardware/hardware_syringes.shtml
     
  13. RxDope

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    K , this oughta go over well...I have been using for alongg time everything from Dope to prescriptions/oxy's whatever gets it done. About a week ago I did something really stupid. I crushed an Oxy40 and mixed it with a few drops of water then tried to shoot it.Im a pretty good shot considering my experience and also been doin it a while...APARANTLY I MISSED! I have a big red swolen lump in my arm that hurts when I touch it but its not ooxing or anything...I can tellit must be infected under the skin so I started taking some leftover antibiotics and been taking them for a week its still there...So I figured maybe it just wont absorb like "a missed dope hit" So I tried to drain it and it was bloody mucous and pus liek with a thick -snot-like consistency when I tried to lance it. I squeezed it for a long time and tyried to bleed it out as best I could. Its actually all drained I guess because theres nothing but a clear liquid-like water coming from the hiole I MADE...Now heres teh thing....The fucking lump is still there! Is it my muscle or what? because nothing else will come out. I am too afraid to go to the hospital to have it looked at. It dont looklike a problem that wont get better on its own, but Im paranoid I think I have really screwed up!
    If need be I will lance that sucker with a brand new razor blade from my husbands utility knife, idc, but what I need to know why that knot wont go down?is the thissue just still inflamed where I re-punctured it ?Or is it something I cant fix???WTF did I do?
    Please help? Im freaking out!!!!
     
  14. Guitar

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    ^ not to be judgemental, but reasons like that are why i'd never touch a needle, it just doesn't seem worth it.
     
  15. RxDope

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    well yeah i can understand why you feel liek that. but im realy scared that i will have to go to the er and my family dr willfindout what i done...i have too much to lose.
    I just wann know how to get this damn thing to go away its more liek cellutitis than anything i think
    it was a cruched pill not dope...it shot into my muscle not my vein. likei said i drained it as muchas poss but its still lumped uprock hard
     
  16. Shocbomb

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    Rxdope, pretty fucked up man. Out of all my years of shooting Herion,pills and coke I never ounce got a abscess thank God, But I have seen them countless times on my frinds and other addicts.The one time I got one was from all things a spider bite, I did the same exact thing you did and it healed right up.I took cycle of antibiotics and I got a big gage needle one with a big point that is long and thick and drained it every day, And it was fucking nasty just like you say. A mix of puss and old blood. I drained it for like a week, finally it stopped filling up, It then took like a month for it to clear up. Hears what you should do take a cycle of antibiootics like you are, keep draining it. and make sure you keep a face cloth with warm water on it, clean it alot also. bandage it up, but a few times during the day take the bandage off and let the air hit it. Just do all this for a month or so it will take a long time to go away but it will. If it gets worse even after that I don't care get your ass to the Emergency room or your doctor. the infection can spread to your heart or brain if you don't, just tell them you got bit buy a spider or a old rusty nail poked you in the arm thats all man. Man thats fucked up what happend, I have missed with pills tons of times I never got a abscess it can happen though, most of them happen form missed coke and pill shots, Powdered Herion you can miss all you can't and don't have to worry about a abscess it absorbs right into you mussle, Tar Herion on the other hand is dirty shit I heard its causes infections and abscess all the time. Alright man I wish you all the best and if it does not et better take your ass to the ER. GOOD LUCK !!!
     

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