Value of life.

Why do so many people think life has so big value? Life might have value for single person. But as a whole it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if someone dies somewhere. Nothing happens. People are dying all the time. Sure their friends and families might be sad for some time, but then they get over it. And then die anyway.

Life started millions years ago and is a complex continous process. Life of single individual doesn't matter.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we should kill someone just because his life doesn't matter. But death is not as huge tragedy as we make it.

 

Cos some people haven't looked beyond their own bubble of consciousness. Not that they need to, cos it doesn't matter anyway.

 

Within an existentialist framework it's good to develop your own subjective sense of meaning.

Since preservation of life is a huge evolutionary and biological impulse it makes sense to embrace it as part of a philosophical outlook.

 

If one absolutely knew there was an afterlife for humans, then murdering someone might be doing them a favor. The after--life more than likely means just that --after life.

 

My own death is a huge tragedy because without the status of life, what else is there?

 

There is a desire to add to the human collective and to further progress in society. It's nice to be able to be valued by other people.
We put value on things (like life) because we are human and value the things that we have.
Not saying that it isn't egotistical, but part of being human.

 

and your point is?

 

the value of life is that it is a time when you can do things.

we don't know that there aren't other times when you can too, we only know this is the one that we know that we have.

but that IS the point. the time that we have is the time that we KNOW that we have.

 

i think we have it backwards in today's world and societies, we value pointless unproductive life. we should be holding up the achievements and the achievers not the meek, weak, mentally inferior. we need to pick who we should keep and be done with the rest. we need to cleanse this globe of the ones who really don't have the strength to stand tall on their own.

 

That would depend on the individual concerned I think.

Also it's probably a deangerous idea in the political sense to say the individual doesn't matter. It's an attitude that historically has led to many abuses.

 

"cleanse the globe",eh? Pretty popular opinion back in the 30s-40s. Can you suggest where that brilliant idea should start?

 

was it them damn Germans again?

 

I think it can be assumed that the individual does matter just on a physical level. That is, there's no reason to assume that the universe doesn't require each individual to exist. Because that's the way it is...

 

that was a racist eugenics and what i'm talking about is sensible, reasonable soft version of that. the ones who don't contribute at all whatsoever and actually suck off the productive. but i would prefer at least having physician assisted suicide be the main wing of that idea, people can make their own decisions. but i mean anyone over the age of 25 i would say, has the right to take their own life if they choose to do so, sign a form, maybe pay a fee. quite simple.

 

I don't like the "fee" idea. A lot of people are going to think twice about suicide if there's a fee attached.

 

you're only as important as you feel you are
only as valuable as you think you are
so do what you think is truly important and valuable
and so you will be

fuck the rest

 

It is very dangerous when you start to devalue life...Anyone's life...Eveyone's life matters to themselves,including yours...Look what happened in Nazi Germany when Hitler and his cronies dehumanized the Jews...We need a greater respect for life,not less.

 

I never valued my life until I had a child. That's not to say I didn't love life, because I have always loved the gift of being alive, and that's not to say I didn't value life in general because I have a great reverence for all life forms, from humans to insects to plants. But I realized how insignificant my life was in the grand scheme of things. I didn't fear death because I didn't place a lot of importance on my life.

Now I have a child and I place a hell of a lot more value on my life knowing that another life is completely dependent on it.

 

Who is we.

 

That intoxicating maternal instinct.