V for Vendetta

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Monolith, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. Monolith

    Monolith Member

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    MAN I just saw this movie last night. This is a VERY political movie. Its basically about the government being so caught up with terrorism they dont realize that they are the terrorists. Its in England in the future but the issues are the same issues the US is going through right now, it even talks about Avian flu, Monitoring phone calls, war in Iraq, just all sorts of things, and this one guy V is trying to change it all. I know it was a comic book first but man this is a must see movie. This doesnt belogn in the movies category but right here in protest, because if we dont do something to change the way things are now the government could very well end up totalitarian.
     
  2. satirul

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    then do something about the government,don't just scream and wait for the messiah,someone must take the initiative and at least try change things.Do It Yourself!
     
  3. verseau_miracle

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    Its been in England for weeks, i saw it last week and it really moved me. I cried when the woman read that note in "prison", from that lesbian girl.

    Id recommend it. It was long, but worth it. Although the only thing i didnt like was this kind of underlying "revenge can be very good" message. Revenge isnt good:p

    Xx
     
  4. Monolith

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    In certain situations Revenge can be good. If that lesbian girl was my friend, or if I was in a similar situation then you bet your ass revenge would be good.
     
  5. rayne_lyric

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    I LOVED the movie! It is deffinately in my top 3 list actually (Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Woodstock and V.). I read the occasion comic book, and have friends that do as well. The Graphic novel was ACTUALLY written in the 80's (I think between 84 and 89, not 100%) about the Margret Thatcher and Ronald Regan administrations by a VERY liberal comic writer. I as well as other people were shocked that I liked the movie so well, being pretty pacifistic and all...

    "Although the only thing i didnt like was this kind of underlying "revenge can be very good" message. Revenge isnt good:p"

    Agreed! But I think it is also worth mentioning that the revenge wasn't done for the sake of revenge itself. He wasn't doing it out of sheer hate and anger (as we see when he killed that one lady) he was doing so in order to kill everyone that knew his identity thus making himself no longer a man, but an idea. People die pretty easilly, but an idea can live as long as people believe it.

    Prime example: The grunge movement that was really big in the early-mid 90's was linked directly to Kurt Kobain. Other bands could only follow in the footsteps of Nirvana, because Nirvana and Kurt were put on some pedistool. As soon as Kurt died, the whole movement began to collapse and in a matter of months, become virtually dead. An example of something based on a person.

    Now, an example of something based on an idea would be the hippie movement. It was related to several people like Lennon, Dylan, Ginsburg, Hoffman, Garcia, etc. But when those people die, or will die, then their legacy will still live on. People look at the idea as being almost a living breathing thing in and of itself. When the people tied to it leave us, we still have their legacies and ideas they leave behind.

    Hence the idea behind the character "V". By concealing his identity, the movement has full potential to go on without him, and become much bigger than he as well.
     
  6. rayne_lyric

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    Sorry for the long reply...
     
  7. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Don't Apologise..............good thoughts all.
     
  8. rayne_lyric

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    Well, the whole thing about him having to remain an idea was something a friend of mine (comic book guru, no kidding) pointed out. He had read the Graphic novel, but has actually not seen the movie yet because he is living in Brazil right now and it hasn't been shown there. But there is a LOT of symbolism in that movie that can hold true regarding ANY really conservative government. The best line from the whole movie was when V said "The people should not fear the government. The government should fear the people."
     
  9. Oric

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    I would suggest reading the book. The makers of the movie changed it a lot, and added a lot of modern things in it, as the comic book series was written in the mid eighties. Alan Moore, the author, is a genius. Got expelled from school at age 17 for dealing acid. He's an incredible writer.
     
  10. Gerva

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    I appreciated it
     
  11. Gerva

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    I believe if you wanna either do or change something right now, the right way is to do it trough the social forums, like you know, it's been happening in the last few years, the no-global movement..it doesn't matter that on tv and news they just show street fighting scenes, the important thing is sharing ideas, and this is ironically due to the most global thing in the world:internet..sharing ideas via internet+social forums+growing public opinion..it's possible to make things work:an example, the social forum in Mexico on water issue: sharing knowledge leading to awarness and a conclusion:water belongs to everyone, evrybody has got the right to get water: water has not be privatised and turning into a commercial good!
     
  12. ChanginTimes

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    VERY awesome statement dude, I never even thought of it in that context.

    If Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert Kennedy had been more obscure figures, yet just as prominent, maybe the blows the movements in the 60's suffered when they were murdered wouldn't have been as harsh.
     
  13. wildfire

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    yeah that is a really cool idea. when he said that in the movie it seemed kind of like you can kill the revolutionary but you can't kill the revoltion. i love that movie so much. it made me so happy to see something like that made and people in the theater watching it. i love that movie.
     
  14. Monolith

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    nice reply rayne and everyone else.


    Yes this movie was so amazing, I want to watch it again!!!!!!!!!
     
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