Trying to create an armed militia

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Hippie McRaver, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    I think that armed militia are the best and last defense against a tyrannically government or oppressive enemy from abroad.

    I want to find educated men and women who are rational and competent, I want ex-military to train us and I want lawyers on hand that can work miracles.


    how do I go about doing this?
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  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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  3. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    yes it is, thank you.


    also I found this to be interested


    Blair Holt Firearm Licensing
    & Record of Sale Act
    2-16-9

    Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced
    into the House.

    This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of
    2009.

    We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio
    program.

    Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying
    under the radar.

    To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR
    45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act
    of 2009. You will get all the information.

    Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle
    with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

    ·It is registered

    ·You are fingerprinted

    ·You supply a current Driver's License

    ·You supply your Social Security #

    ·You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of
    their choosing

    ·Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale
    must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically
    lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

    ·There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a
    child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any
    child under 18.

    They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing
    your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is
    punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

    If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of
    many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more
    people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters
    in your family - pass this along.

    Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630
    a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to
    tell all your friends about it and "spring into action". Also he
    suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle
    Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.

    This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns
    and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip
    away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before
    anyone realizes it.

    This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

    If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against
    me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for
    26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in
    less danger from their victims.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

    Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA

    More On Gun Grab HR 45 Here...

    http://news.google.com/news?oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=in&
    ned=&q=HR+45&btnG=Search+News
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/whoru/

    Eric WhoRU Solution To Aaron Russo's AFTF:
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  4. Pennyroyal_Tea

    Pennyroyal_Tea Member

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    May I quote your text written herein on a facebook group?
    I am starting a petition therein to shoot this big brother bill down before it occurs. I would, of course, not even identify you by s/n.
    Thank you.


     
  5. MrDot

    MrDot Senior Member

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    To my belief, what you're asking as in to create such a thing as an ARMED and TRAINED group of soldiers to PROTECT certain rights or an oppressive enemy is a bit illegal. If I'm correct every state has its own militia, but most times you need to be invited into those.
     
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  7. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    Armed resistance is exactly what Big Brother wants, without a force to fight they have no way of stopping the rebellion, this country cannot be changed by force of arms, only by peace, love, and enlightenment. In the famous words of John Lennon, "All we are sayin' is give peace a chance."
     
  8. MrDot

    MrDot Senior Member

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    ^exactly
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Joining a militia might be a tad annoying. You might have to deal with a lot of rednecks and such.

    I'd just say arm your own house. Every responsible homeowner should have a gun. You gotta protect yourself.

    That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
     
  10. Lennon_Skye

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    I'd advise against this.

    Let's say that you are a hippy (on a hippy forum:p).

    One of the most famous hippy slogans would be: Make Love, Not War.

    And one of my personal favorites. Fighting for Peace is like Fucking for Chastity.

    Sorry for the F-bomb to the moderators, just replace it with *** if it offends anyone...

    What's the point of killing more people? Fine, uprising is good, yes. But risking killing more people would be going against the very cause you're fighting for.

    L-S
     
  11. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    I appreciate your comments, but one day if shit hits the fan, say the government collapses and people are starving and the banks bottom out, all the peace and love in the world wont stop my neighbors from trying to rob me of my supplies if they need it bad enough. Our military will be leaderless and in the same life or death struggle as everyone else, so will the police. However I am sure that (probably more so the police) these powerful groups wont want to give up the power given to them by the federal authorities that has presumably collapsed. Will these X police, and military try to coerce the mostly unarmed and untrained people to bend to there will? So where does that leave us? Why not raise an army so to speak of your own people so you can network, work together and protect each other? Having weapons is one thing, but knowing how to use them tactically and with the support of a group or "cell" or whatever a group of armed trained guys is called seems key.

    in an event where TSHTF it will be hours between the fall of government and total anarchy.
     
  12. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    its not if,but when..

    its no longer a hypothetical scenario,its coming.

    sooner than most think..
     
  13. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Well, the problem with this whole idea is: It's a waste of time, energy, and money. You will not be able to acquire the necessary weapons and equipment that could ever come close to dealing with an M1A2 Abrams tank (and even if you disabled one, what about the entire United States military?), or an F22 stealth fighter. You would die, as would your misguided followers.

    The United States government will be around a long, long time. China is not going to blow it up, it's not going to disappear under the weight of economic instability, their will not be any successful revolutions, and their will not be a one world government that strips all sovereignty away.
     
  14. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    you are probably right, but what if?

    also I fear the military less in a situation of total anarchy because they enlisted and took an oath to protect the US (that includes citizens)

    I fear the police more because they spent there lives trying to find ways to get people to do what they want with force and destroy lives on a moral whim. I bet it would be the police who would pose an immediate threat.

    also I understand what you are saying about the tanks and whatnot, your right, however America was founded by a bunch of militia farmers fighting the greatest power on earth and won. So it can happen.
     
  15. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    just playing devils advocate here..

    the argument that we are outgunned and therefore dont stand a chance is completely bogus and has been proven false in Iraq and Afghanistan..

    the ingenuity of the american people is astounding. go on youtube and look at the flamethrowers,pumpkin cannons,sawdust bombs, etc.etc. that people make now,then use a little imagination as to how those could be tweaked to be more than deadly.

    then factor in the knowledge of IED's that thousands of soldiers have brought back from the middle east and i would say you have the makings of one hell of a armed resistance..

    also,do a little research and you will find our military is not happy at all with this administration. few will follow orders when it comes to putting down insurrection here in america.

    that leaves united nations troops to do the job and we all know those blue helmets make hella targets..
     
  16. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    NO, they took a oath to defend the CONSTITUTION! which is being raped,and as i said in my previous post,if you do your research you will find many are not happy about whats happening.
     
  17. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    also, need i remind people of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZh9-NQEyI

    put a cannon on that and you have a tank. think how many veterans now own grading companies and have the knowledge to build something like this.
    our population is 10 times the population of any country we have fought in over the last century and we have able bodied veterans from 3 wars who havent forgotten the lessons learned..

    im not buyin the we "wouldnt stand a chance" argument.
     
  18. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    I'd have to disagree with your comparison; the biggest difference between the Revolutionaries and the British army was supplies and numbers, not technology. In the case you are talking about, everything from equipment to technology to training there will be an insurmountable disparity.

    The only way, as far I as can see, a revolution to happen in the United States is for certain military units to break off and cease taking orders.
     
  19. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    according to the united states military's own reports you need 1 soldier for every 10 people to effectively control a population.. any idea where they are going to come up with a army of 30 million??
     
  20. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    I saw that a while back, I think that if he didnt put all the concrete on it that thing would have run indefinitely
     
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